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michelle

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Ladies Classic Tour...
« on: February 28, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »
This didn't take long, but it does offer some insight into the comments that the regional program would continue even if the PWBA ceased to exist...
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The Ladies Classic Tour Email Report 2-27-04 #1

What was the PWBA Regional Report now becomes the LCT Report.  A new era has dawned, and we are looking forward to a bright and rewarding future.

 
Friday, February 27, 2004
Sanders Attempt To Buy PWBA Ends Unsuccessfully

In our last email we reported that Steve Sanders was meeting with ESPN about a new television deal for a PWBA national tour, and that his deal was contingent on getting a viable contract for new TV shows.

The original deadline for ESPN to present a proposal to Sanders was January 15, but it was extended until February 2.  Sanders was optimistic about the deal because the meeting he and Jan Schmidt had with ESPN in December went well, and ESPN said they wanted to continue the relationship they had with women’s pro bowling for 18 years.

However, the proposal ESPN gave Sanders was totally unacceptable, and he ended his quest on February 24.  Steve’s goal was to get a better television deal than PWBA had in recent years.  Instead, ESPN chose to demand even more money from PWBA, asking Sanders to pay $165,000 each for every show, move all shows to ESPN2, and run tape delayed in inconsistent times.

To put in perspective how ridiculous the ESPN offer was – a $165,000 time buy represents a 500% increase over what PWBA paid last year for their shows.  It’s 300% higher than what the PBA pays this year for live shows on ESPN!

In effect, ESPN, for whatever reason, told Sanders they were no longer interested in having women’s pro bowling on their network, and they made it easy for him to walk away from the deal.  Sanders says he has no regrets for the time and money he spent attempting to purchase PWBA, but that he is personally disappointed, especially for the women bowlers who now have no televised tour, and apparently no prospects for the near future.

“The million dollar question is,” he said, “Why such a change after 18 successful years on ESPN?”

So what happens now?  It’s unlikely WIBC will step up because of the SMO changes.  The PBA can afford it, but they are still losing money on the men’s tour, and it could slow their progress.  They also have no television for their senior tour.  Is there another Chris Peters out there willing to spend millions on the women’s tour?

 
Regional Events Will Carry On Under New Name

With Sanders bowing out, it appears the PWBA is at its end, but there is no reason why we cannot continue to stage regional events. In April, we will launch a new non-televised tour called the Ladies Classic Tour, with five regions and events starting in April.  The official announcement will be made March 16 in Reno during the BWAA Convention.

The new LCT will be operated by Jim and CJ Goodwin, who will also run the Southwest Region events.  Mimi Lambert will stay on as Southeast Region Director, and Chuck and Nancy Fairchild will continue to manage the Northeast Region.  A new West Coast Region will be run by former tour player and RPC champion Tori Carter, and a new Midwest Region director will be hired very soon.

A business plan and rule book is being written, and the new LCT will make several positive changes:

·         Only one class of members at a lower cost - $75 annually

·         No restrictions for amateur such as collegiate and Team USA players

·         A new deal for host centers which allows them to share event revenues and derive income from the event

·         Every event will include a coaching clinic featuring some of the top pros in the sport

·         Every event will raise money for charity through the players and pro-am bowlers

·         All women who average 170 or better are eligible to join and compete

 

We are very excited about the potential of the LCT and we hope women everywhere will support it.  A media kit will be distributed to BWAA members on March 16, and membership kits will go out to players very soon.

The past several months have been a very hectic time for women’s bowling and our organization.  We want to thank everyone for their patience, and we sincerely believe that good times are ahead.  As plans develop for the new LCT, we will keep you informed.  Please don’t hesitate to give us your input anytime you feel a need to comment or offer a suggestion.

 

 

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Re: Ladies Classic Tour...
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2004, 02:20:50 PM »
Well, I haven't quite made up my mind yet whether this is a good thing or a bad thing. I guess I'll wait till April to find out.
Until I know more about the format and the organization, I really can't see this as anything much different than a franchise type tournament organization.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think this organization has the set up to call itself a professional organization - not if it allows amateur members.
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Re: Ladies Classic Tour...
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2004, 02:41:27 PM »
mumzie -

I find it so incomprehensible that the business world is willing to just let it all end.

You need someone like Donald Trump to save the day.  Heck, he saved the Beauty Pageant from going under.  Resurrecting the women's tour would be such great PR for any business or organization.  I don't understand how they can all pass this up??
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2004, 03:12:50 PM »
Leftside -

I am well aware that ESPN claims that the ratings were poor.  Yet, everyone you talk to claims to have enjoyed watching the women.

I am far from naive when it comes to business and the importance of the bottom line.

ESPN can't be the only game in town.  Like the old saying goes, "Where there's a will, there's a way".  There has to be some way to save it.  They just haven't found anyone creative enough to find it.  Hence, my Donald Trump reference.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2004, 06:01:01 PM »
Perhaps you should learn to read more carefully and not make assumptions.

 
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Please point out where I made the incinuation you were naive??????


Who said you insinuated anything?  I merely made a statement that I understand that business is in it for the profit.

You are the one who made the snide remark about the Italian sub and accused me of being crabby, which was totally unwarranted.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2004, 08:01:07 PM »
As much as I would like to see women back on TV, I don't think its going to happen.  Look at the last few years of their tour.  50-60 entries at each national event.  Breaks out to one professional female bowler per state.  Pathetic.  This was after raising the payouts.  To me it looked like a pretty good deal, beat half the field and double your money.  What more could you ask for.

Still couldn't get any entries.  Just where are all these women that want a tour.  They sure didn't show up when they had one, what has changed to make a backer think women are now going to support a tour.

Hopefully this regional thing can take off IF the local women decide to support it.  Lets see what kind of support shows up.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2004, 08:23:52 PM »
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The increased prize fund was only the last season.  That came on the heals of some decreased prize funds the year before as well as a lot of concerns about the health of the tour to begin last season.  There were also a number of part-time players like Mumzie that were ready to give it a go for part of the season...unfortunately, she was gearing up for the West Coast swing which was the half that was cancelled.

Other problems that entered the picture for part-time players was struggles that were expected on the sport-compliant patterns.  They did require different thoughts of how to play the lane and often times also required different equipment and drillings.  All of a sudden, a player was looking at an extra grand in equipment just to try and be competitive before they even entered their first event.  The regional programs were, for the most part, not using sport patterns and so the regionals really were not an adequate training ground for those looking to try the national waters.  And for the part-time player, it really was hard to do an event here or an event there and get properly immersed in all of the issues associated with being successful at the national level.  Very few go out and absolutely blow the field away in there first few events...

Some of the regions drew very well in their events...others struggled to even host events.  Time will tell how the new organization fares...some of the regional directors that remain in place have a tremendous relationship with their bowlers in the region.

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2004, 09:13:12 AM »
Michelle, wasn't the PWBA sorta pressured into using sport-compliant shots on the national tour by their main sponsor, the WIBC?

Speaking of sponsors, I don't recall ever getting an answer to a question I asked a long time ago.  How did the PWBA lose the Travelodge sponsorship?

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2004, 12:38:31 PM »
To jump in and answer on Michelle's behalf - yes - the sport shot requirements were dictated by the WIBC. And since the WIBC was one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) sponsor, PWBA went along with it.

As far as Travelodge - I have no idea. I know that other (very large) sponsors have been lost in the past because of a FAILED RETURN PHONE CALL from home office...
I know LOTS of opportunities for the PWBA that have been lost in the past because of a FAILURE TO RETURN PHONE CALLS. Amazing...
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2004, 12:49:43 PM »
Seadrive...your guess is as good as mine about the Travelodge deal, although it could also have had something to do with there not being many of their locations in the cities where the tournaments were held (and when there was one, it was not always in the best area).

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2004, 01:02:57 PM »
Why does ESPN have to be the final stop for someone seeking a television contract.  Last time I checked, there were a lot more channels than just ESPN.  ABC carried PBA bowling for 3 decades before the reshuffle and contract to ESPN.  Then there are FOX, NBC, and CBS that could conceivably look to have an interesting sports program to compete with the ABC sports programs on Sundays.  HTS used to carry duckpin, amateur, and youth bowling.  Why not try that for a brief period, anyway.

I'm just scratching my head wondering why it seems that ESPN is the only channel that is sought when trying to televise bowling - ladies, youth, or other.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2004, 01:06:51 PM »
Didn't Lifetime carry the wnba.  It is television for women after all.  I know that our tv doesn't leave it too often when my wife is in control.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2004, 01:17:23 PM »
Heck go to Oprah and the Oxygen Network for that matter.

I would like to see a stronger regional program for women, but there is still a need for the professionals to have a true competitive forum.

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2004, 03:56:55 PM »
Michelle, somehow I think Travelodge was trying to use the PWBA to reach a somewhat larger audience than the forty or so touring PWBA pro's.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2004, 04:05:51 PM »
JMO...I think the owners of the PBA want womans bowling. I would say they talked to espn to make sure things went unfavorable for Sanders so that he would no longer be interested in the ladies tour.