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card79

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So, Is the PWBA Dead
« on: January 12, 2004, 08:21:51 PM »
Well nobody has said anything.  Do these ladies just put there life and continuing career goals on hold waiting for somebody to decide or did I just miss the funeral.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2004, 09:37:42 AM »
The latest I've heard, on pba.com, is that Sanders is still waiting for ESPN to "get back" to him.  This was from someone who supposedly spoke to him just a few days ago.

I know nothing about the broadcasting business, but I can't see why ESPN would be wavering on televising women's professional bowling.  It's a known commodity with proven ratings, what's not to like?

Hmmmm... maybe it's Sanders they're not so sure about...

Keep your fingers crossed, looks like we're in for a bumpy ride!
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2004, 09:55:42 AM »
According to Bowling Digest the deal to buy it is still in the works, and espn will not negotiate a deal with Sanders until the deal is done, but he plans on a 20 event calender for 2004-2005, from august-october then march through may.

This is the latest I have heard.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2004, 11:53:28 AM »
Does the PBA charter allow women?
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2004, 12:50:35 PM »
no.

However, the exempt field for next year has one spot for the local winner of the "classic" pro am, which could be a woman.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2004, 09:08:18 PM »
Get in line. I'd love it too!
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2004, 10:56:54 PM »
I just don't get it.  Why can't anybody market a hugely marketable thing?  People were watching the espn telecasts.  It isn't like the ratings were terrible.  SHoot when the ladies used to have a tournament here in my home center they were a terrific ambassador for the game.  The center was jam packed with people everyday.  I think it is stupid.  Maybe they need to get together as a group and create something.  To many people tasting the soup is making it rotten for all.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2004, 09:34:36 AM »
Card...part of the problem is that marketing with the old group left much to be desired.  Whoever comes in has to understand that it would take some time to pull something from the ashes...look at the time it took for the guys in Seattle to rebuild the PBA.

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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2004, 10:59:34 AM »
Something needs to happen quick,..I think some of the SuperStars are moving on with their life,..Carolyn is "building" a family and may be out for a while, and I read somewhere that Kim dropped her card and is going into the medical field...
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2004, 11:39:20 AM »
Jim, technically everybody has dropped their card  Let's face it, there is not an organization that is currently out there that can issue a card to us...none of the 2003 members are cardholders, which is the main reason why Jim Welch added the clause for Winter Wonderland about "or who were a member of any professional organization..."


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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2004, 12:05:23 AM »
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Buzz round DC West this week was that the WPBA is back
They are just trying to iron out a TV deal with ESPN.




The WPBA (ladies billiards) has had a deal in place.  

On the other hand, the PWBA members have been listening to the "all but done and waiting on the ESPN deal" since about oh, last September.  I'm in agreement at this point with some that have opined that the Professional Women's Bowling Association needs to finally have the last gasp and allow something else to try and rise from the ashes that does not have the immediate and attendant baggage of the LPBT and the PWBA.  I'm one of many that is frustrated with the deadline being met with yet another extension of a deadline...

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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2004, 12:39:36 PM »
I've heard that ESPN isn't willing to provide the kind of deal Sanders wants and he's no longer optimistic that a deal will happen.    
I guess the reality of it all is that women's bowling just simply isn't marketable, except to those few diehards among us.  I guess it's way too boring to compete for the casual viewer's attention.  I suppose if they added the excitement of an occasional Carolyn crotch chop, a trash talking Kelly Kulick, a few well-placed Leanne F-Bombs, a tongue-pierced TenTen, a cheesy TV show set, and an exclusive all-exempt field of 16, we'd be in business.  But none of that is ever going to happen.  Well, at least not the cheesy set.  Actually, they're all just too darn nice to make for "good" TV.  God forbid, if one of them ever showed any self-enthusiasm or mild display of emotion in victory, they would have to apologize to the others for being so disrespectful and then give the loser a big weepy hug for support.  Seriously, though, it's really a shame and I will miss it simply for what it was:  The best women bowlers in the world competing every week and trying to make a living doing what they love.    


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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2004, 12:42:24 PM »
Who cares about women's bowling anyway.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2004, 04:40:02 PM »
I also loved to watch the Ladies bowl on TV and always thought they put on a great show. As most of us know, if we were to  bowling with them on the same shot they would KICK OUR BUTTS!!
I personally hope to see the Ladies back on TV very soon.
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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »
The tour is dead.  An announcement went out in the Bowlers Journal Cyber Report.  Steve Sanders was not able to negotiate an ESPN contract that was acceptable in his goals to promote the PWBA. He has decided to no longer pursue the purchase of the PWBA.  
  Sad news for women's bowling.  I think BJI is going to run a Q&A with Steve Sanders in the April edition.  

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Re: So, Is the PWBA Dead
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2004, 03:16:28 PM »
Very sad