The only thing missing from that previous surface post is your criticism of the original poster. LOL

In all seriousness, It's great to do things again and again, getting the info out to the public in many different avenues.

To add to my last post Phil, although I don't own a radical, I have thrown the Version 2 Solid, Pearl, Yeti Untamed, and the last, I LOVED THEM ALL,  now that's RADICAL!!!!

Will there be any more videos addressing the cg using a throwbot……. Like placing it 45 degrees from the bowlers pap to increase carry and or something or another as mentioned else where

Phil/Nick

Good stuff and as a former PSO, when factual information can get disseminated into the industry rather than incorrect information, this is good for the business. Nothing more difficult that trying to correct bad information given to customers who then think the customer knows something when in actuality, he/she is mistaken. Try to correct that information when the bowler is telling his/her friends. Now bad info is getting passed around.

Don't worry about TKK. He/she is just a shill for other companies and acts like a little POS PSO when someone doesn't agree with him/her, so he/she resorts to verbal jabs to try to throw his/her weight around and bully someone. Must be a great person in real life. 

Posters like TKK is why other reps no longer visit Ballreviews.

Quote from: BrunsNick on November 25, 2015, 07:00:36 PM

Quote from: tkkshop on November 25, 2015, 06:44:38 PM

All because you couldn't answer which ball lost the most overall reaction from ball 1 to game 20?

Could we have thrown the balls on Throbot right out of the box and collected data?
Sure. Did we? No. That wasn't the intent of the test, the focus was what happened to the balls after 20 games.

If you'd like to see balls tested with fresher covers, try the previous Perception videos.

If we posted the shots right OOB, we would be criticized that because our surface was much duller is the reason it hooked much more. On the other hand, when we put 20 games on the balls and let the surfaces normalize, we are criticized again. We will never make everyone satisfied and really don't intend to. We will continue to create controlled tests in controlled environments for the bowling world to debate.

is it not a valid question? LeGue bowlers want to know the difference in ball reaction from game 1 to game 20. I was just trying to get some answers backed by data that your company provided.

We figured you had all the answers though! Next test then...

I can't seem to find it, but did someone actually say something about the CG being out of line on the Paradox? Like static weight is going to mean something in the grand scheme of things? Didn't we go over this years ago?

Sounds like grasping at straws. Phil and Co, thanks for the video. I love science.

Oh yeah, still Global proud.

To me it seems like all the perception videos have the radical ball being thrown on an ever so slightly tighter line.  In some of the videos it was called hooking earlier. However,  when I  look at the projection of the ball based on my vantage point it appears the ball is being thrown roughly 2 boards tighter of a line at the breakpoint.  Being 2 boards tighter to the pocket at the breakpoint is gonna be a fairly big difference in where the ball ends up in the pocket and how it deflects on a completely flat pattern. That being said I understand what the purpose of these videos is and it seems to work for the most part.

And don't be discouraged, this video has the most comments I've seen on a thread here in quite some time...

You're going to have lovers & haters when it comes o different brands in this sport, ATLEAST were not cussing at eachother, I enjoy a good conversation going back and forth.