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Need your opinion.....
« on: November 12, 2014, 08:53:42 AM »
So i would like your input. Tell me the ideal ball motion that is most desirable.  Please do not use other balls as an example. I want you to describe the motion.
I will select 2 responses randomly. The first selected response will receive a Guru. The second will receive a Yeti Uncaged. Only one response per person.  Multiple responses by the same person will disqualify you from the selection process.
Please be as descriptive as possible. It's your chance to help us develope a ball down the road.
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2014, 12:07:36 PM »
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2014, 12:34:08 PM »
My ideal ball motion is even. The easiest way i can put it.  I want to see the ball move in a controlled continuous arc from start to finish.  The second a ball starts to slide or jump, it goes back into my bag.   The more even a ball reaction, the easier it is to dial in. 
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2014, 12:38:13 PM »
For me the best ball motion is when I see the ball digging-biting-scatching hard in the midlane.  The midlane is not the table setter or the end result, but the true heart of a balls motion.

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2014, 06:20:05 PM »
The ideal ball motion that is most desirable for me will be described from two POVs. 

When I bowl and see the ball going down the lane from the foul line, I want to see it get through the heads cleanly with no reading of the lane at all (the first 15 feet), then start to flare in the mid-lane and begin to 'read' the oil pattern, and then I like to see the ball 'rev up' as it loses speed into the friction at the break point so that it gets into a heavy roll before it hits the pins.  Once it hits the pins, I like to watch the ball roll straight through the pins, where I don't want to see the ball deflect off the head pin and go to the right of the 5 pin (RH bowler).

From my team mate's POV, he likes to see my ball "skid, rip and flip", so from where he is watching it skids down the lane, rips up the mid lane and then flips over at the breakpoint accelerating into the pocket.

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2014, 09:23:04 AM »
Ideal ball motion is one that clears the heads without any loss of speed, revolutions, or axis tilt/rotation.  Once reaching the midlane, the ball begins to slow a touch, lose a bit of rotation, and at least visually appear to increase revolutions.  At the end of the pattern, the ball slows down, loses remaining rotation and tilt, transitions into a very defined heavy roll.  The motion off the end of the pattern is a very strong change of direction, but not snappy.  The proverbial "hard arc" motion. 

Since this is idealized, I'm going to also envision at least 8 pins falling ;-).

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2014, 10:34:47 AM »
I really like the predictable reaction/motion. Skid, hook, roll with a nice read in the mids with a strong arc break point. For me a ball that doesn't jump off the back of the lane is preferred with my medium ball speed and low to medium rev rate. Regardless of lane conditions, I find a readable ball more to my liking and it  makes adjustments easier.
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2014, 03:04:11 PM »
I like a ball that is clean thru the heads with a good mid lane read plus a real good back end that does not deflect but drive thru the pins. Also when the ball hit the pins,keep the pin low instead of flying around or over. A ball that you can use on different lane condition with out changing the cover of the ball. And color of the ball that is not clashing to the eye and be bright plus color change when you hold it to the light.
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2014, 03:12:09 PM »
So i would like your input. Tell me the ideal ball motion that is most desirable.  Please do not use other balls as an example. I want you to describe the motion.
I will select 2 responses randomly. The first selected response will receive a Guru. The second will receive a Yeti Uncaged. Only one response per person.  Multiple responses by the same person will disqualify you from the selection process.
Please be as descriptive as possible. It's your chance to help us develope a ball down the road.
Thanks
Phil

I like a ball that will clear the heads well without having the big booming backend.  With so many hook monsters on the market; it a a breath of fresh air when even someone with a high rev rate can square up on light to medium patterns.  A lot of the "weaker balls" are coming out with high flare potential. 

With all that said........an entry level hybrid with medium RG and lower diff.  Clean, later read of the midlane, and a not-too-smooth but not-too-angular backend motion.
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2014, 03:45:21 PM »
Rookie attempt......

Clean thu the front, a semi strong read of the mids, and nice smooth arcing roll on the back end. Basically, something not to jumpy and not to early for those of us with less hand and have trouble playing to far in.

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2014, 08:32:34 PM »
A clean strong arcing motion. 8)
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2014, 08:48:22 PM »
With what Radical has offered thus far, I agree a hole is missing for a lower rg, lower diff ball. I could see that couple with a stronger cover combo. For instance, the Version 2 solid and pearl covers wrapped around a Symmetric weight block. Those balls would be clean and great all around for the tournament bowler. 

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2014, 05:02:38 PM »
I like a ball motion that is hockey stick in theory but not so angular.  I like a ball that goes long, gets in its roll and just keeps coming, getting stronger where you think if the pins weren't there, the ball would do a u-turn but without the ball looking like somebody in the right channel kicked the ball to the left.  In other words, forget the assymetrical core for me.  I roll Radical now with the Yeti Untamed as the first ball out of my bag.  Just love it and its fellow Radical balls.  Keep up the good work, Phil. 
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2014, 06:23:35 PM »
For me, i like to see a ball that reads the midlane then pops off the end of the pattern with a strong move but not at right angles. Once it breaks to the pocket the ball needs continue strong through the pin-deck keeping the pins low. I like to be shooting through 12-15 out to 7-10 in a perfect world but adjusting the line to suit the lane condition is always needed which is why i like the the strong motion off the end of the pattern. This allows me to to tighten or open up my shot where needed. If the ball is reading the mid lane and making the move off the pattern it makes for a versatile ball which helps with scoring and thats what we all want :)

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2014, 09:30:18 PM »
The Ideal ball motion is the one that rolls 36 strikes in roll ;D
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2014, 11:20:55 AM »
I need something that will be clean through the heads, picks up a bit midlane, then a strong, continuous move on the back end.  Coverstock flexibility would be huge.
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