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newguy

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New Technology from Radical
« on: October 11, 2016, 11:43:46 AM »
Check out the new Fix with the shapeshifter core. Our new video is up on our face
book page and info on the ball is up on our Website.
We are also releasing a Jackpot Solid. Same popular core, new stronger solid cover.

WOW that's Radical.

 

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 11:58:38 AM »
Interesting to say the least.

Whats the purpose of The Fix when you already have the Guru Supreme and Xeno?

newguy

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 12:16:21 PM »
new technology. Core can be either a strong asymmetrical or a weak symmetrical and every where in between,  it fits a different motion and performance.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 12:22:31 PM »
new technology. Core can be either a strong asymmetrical or a weak symmetrical and every where in between,  it fits a different motion and performance.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of it then. The Jackpot Solid fits my needs a little better right now as a compliment to a Ridiculous Pearl

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 12:23:27 PM »
Looks very interesting and looking forward to getting one or two of them to try out the different layout options...
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Snakster

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2016, 01:06:48 PM »
new technology. Core can be either a strong asymmetrical or a weak symmetrical and every where in between,  it fits a different motion and performance.

But strong cover, yes?
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newguy

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2016, 02:01:50 PM »
yes strong and new cover technology as well.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 02:10:37 PM »
If I'm reading the updated ball chart correctly a few balls have also been discontinued. Both Rack Attacks, the Rave On, the Primo Solid, and the Guru Master. I'm really liking the current lineup though. Lots of dynamic stuff in there.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 03:12:44 PM »
I'm most surprised to see a motion hole layout under the asymmetric options. Would the hole be placed in the same manner as symmetrics? I know Mo shied away from recommending the layout on asymmetric balls. Just wondering if anything has changed as I don't see anything about the placement of the hole on the drilling sheet.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2016, 03:17:37 PM »
Same rules apply on drilling a motion hole.
 Remember the Fix is both symmetrical and asymmetrical so you can drill it with a motion hole and not have to worry about the placement. It is totally new technology so all of the previous rules may not apply to the Shapeshifter core.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2016, 03:26:52 PM »
Same rules apply on drilling a motion hole.
 Remember the Fix is both symmetrical and asymmetrical so you can drill it with a motion hole and not have to worry about the placement. It is totally new technology so all of the previous rules may not apply to the Shapeshifter core.

Yes I know, but I saw that the motion hole drilling was under the asymmetric layouts and it looks like the pin placement differs a bit from the normal symmetric motion hole layout. I'm particularly interested in that layout because I'm now fairly high track and I've loved the motion hole on every ball I've put it on - the most recent being the Ridiculous Pearl

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 03:30:16 PM »
you can drill it the same as the Ridiculous pearl.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 07:32:16 PM »
Same rules apply on drilling a motion hole.
 Remember the Fix is both symmetrical and asymmetrical so you can drill it with a motion hole and not have to worry about the placement. It is totally new technology so all of the previous rules may not apply to the Shapeshifter core.

Yes I know, but I saw that the motion hole drilling was under the asymmetric layouts and it looks like the pin placement differs a bit from the normal symmetric motion hole layout. I'm particularly interested in that layout because I'm now fairly high track and I've loved the motion hole on every ball I've put it on - the most recent being the Ridiculous Pearl

it was my impression when the motion hole came out that the benefit was to make a symmetric behave more asymetrically. the layout would raise the RG and the intermediate diff causing more length and shorter hook zone. so the motion hole layout on the assymetric side of the drill sheet would make sense

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 09:45:59 AM »
Same rules apply on drilling a motion hole.
 Remember the Fix is both symmetrical and asymmetrical so you can drill it with a motion hole and not have to worry about the placement. It is totally new technology so all of the previous rules may not apply to the Shapeshifter core.

Yes I know, but I saw that the motion hole drilling was under the asymmetric layouts and it looks like the pin placement differs a bit from the normal symmetric motion hole layout. I'm particularly interested in that layout because I'm now fairly high track and I've loved the motion hole on every ball I've put it on - the most recent being the Ridiculous Pearl

it was my impression when the motion hole came out that the benefit was to make a symmetric behave more asymetrically. the layout would raise the RG and the intermediate diff causing more length and shorter hook zone. so the motion hole layout on the assymetric side of the drill sheet would make sense

Yes, that is true. It is just that Mo stopped recommending using motion hole on asymmetric balls. This drilling is now used on the ball in "asymmetric mode", and the pin placement differs a little from the symmetric layout. My guess is that this ball was designed/tested so motion hole would work.

Previously, I seem to recall the recommendation of placing the hole 11" from the pin on asymmetrics instead of the 10" recommendation on symmetrics. That is why I asked about the hole placement. Nothing is mentioned in the Fix's motion hole layout about the actual hole, where the symmetric ball drilling sheets have everything explained.

I know Phil posted that I can drill it the same as my Ridiculous Pearl, but I will probably follow the drill sheet and go 85 x 3 3/4" x 30 with the pin placement. And unless I hear otherwise before it is drilled, I'll have the hole placed 10" from wherever the pin ends up - adjusted for track flare, if needed. It may end up that the pin is pretty close to the ridiculous pearl anyway. I now use the 5" and over layout. I'm guessing the layout d will put the pin in a similar spot, but maybe more pin up.

Looking forward to this ball with motion hole. Ridiculous Pearl was amazing last night during league -first time I used it for all 3 games. I usually pull it out later on, if at all. Based on the video, the Fix looks just as angular with an asymmetric layout. Should be great 1-2 on heavier oil.

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Re: New Technology from Radical
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 10:35:28 AM »
You are over thinking what marketing is selling you.

The intermediate diff is .007 which is still considered symmetric. This is prior to drilling. Other brands have bowling balls with int diffs in the .005 to .007 range that when drilled can be as asymmetric or symmetric as what you are reading about.

Anyone with blueprint software access could easily give you examples.
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