Thanks for the replies. I am looking for a first ball out of the bag for my house shots. Both leagues this past year, my low game average was game 1. My first ball was the Forza GT solid with around 2000 matte surface and a pin under the ring finger layout. Left side on fresh oil tends to play sport like since there is not a worn track anywhere. I played straight up or maybe a bit of belly...10 at the arrows out to 7 or 8 at the breakpoint. Just left more corner pins early and looking for a controllable Radical ball and layout to use on fresh oil. Intel sounds very controllable, but I wonder if it is strong enough....maybe my pin down (large Val angle) is too long in transition for early oil? My other ball that scores well is stronger backend with the pin in the ring finger. Any other suggestions appreciated.