Mo suggested using the most versatile symmetrical layout which ended up being a 4" pin to PAP and we went with a motion hole. The ball corners amazingly and gives me a great look when I begin to creep left. I do not like it on fresh as much, prefer the Unleashed until the transition occurs. When I have to open up my angles the ball is in its element and really shines. Do not be afraid to put some surface on it. The 3 new balls from Radical, Master, Primo and Rave are really great additions to the line and fit nicely with their reactions. Just for the record I am not a staffer and my only agenda is to try to post good info to help fellow players and pro shops. Thanks for reading, Mike Mineman.