Got the a Uncaged to complement my Untamed which is arguably my best rolling piece.

Duplicated the layout on the Uncaged, pin above right corner of ring with CG on centerline. Ball has 4" pin with 3.6 top. Dual numbers are 85/3.25/35.

Here's the issue: the untamed revs great, reads the mids, and finishes hard thru the deck where the uncaged transitions later (which it should) BUT it is VERY tame on the back. NO continuation. Lays off at the pins.

We tried true 2000, 3000, 500/3000, 360/polish in surface factory, and 500/polish. No big differences.

What can I do to wake this thing up?!?!?!?! I'm the first customer at a VERY busy shop to buy this ball and it left a BAD impression with my driller 

BTW I'm 400 revs, 18 mph, 10* tilt, 50* rotation. PAP 4 7/8 right x 1 1/4 up

Ball is designed to go long and you have a good VAL angle to go with that, but I think the pin to pap is going to be your problem. I am not sure how to fix that.

Try looking at the flare rings on the ball to see how wide the gap is or if they are narrow. I am guessing likely very wide. Cover wants length core is reving early and the ball is struggling because of it.

Driller can't be mad at the ball.

I have had the same issue with the Uncaged, first pin down recommended drilling and ball would hardly wrinkle.  Then went strong drill with 3 3/8 stacked drilling and had the same reaction. Then tried surface adjustments, ball reacted the same no matter what I tried.  Gave the ball away to one of my fellow bowlers to experiment with.  Loved my torrid affair, but sure was disappointed with this one.

Got the a Uncaged to complement my Untamed which is arguably my best rolling piece.

Duplicated the layout on the Uncaged, pin above right corner of ring with CG on centerline. Ball has 4" pin with 3.6 top. Dual numbers are 85/3.25/35.

Here's the issue: the untamed revs great, reads the mids, and finishes hard thru the deck where the uncaged transitions later (which it should) BUT it is VERY tame on the back. NO continuation. Lays off at the pins.

We tried true 2000, 3000, 500/3000, 360/polish in surface factory, and 500/polish. No big differences.

What can I do to wake this thing up?!?!?!?! I'm the first customer at a VERY busy shop to buy this ball and it left a BAD impression with my driller 

BTW I'm 400 revs, 18 mph, 10* tilt, 50* rotation. PAP 4 7/8 right x 1 1/4 up

Just a question here about its usage:

Did you use it in the 2nd/3rd game when the midlane and/or the entire lane gets drier during leagues?
Or did you use it on the same oil that you used the Untamed?

And what's the surface on the Untamed?

Wow. Hope I cover everyone here.

Charlest: Untamed is at 3000. It was 500/2000 during summer sport leagues but it has no doubt "shined up" since. It rolls great on THS. Did you see I did try many surface variations on the Uncaged.

Thanks all for your input. All suggestions profit learning. I love learning!

I know you're experienced. I just wondered what your relative plans for the Uncaged were, with respect to the Untamed. I had thought the Uncaged would be a step down for when the Untamed was too much ball, but you didn't say that and you didn't indicate when you used the Uncaged. So I asked. I see now how you used it and how 3 other balls did react and strongly.

I would assume that since they are relatively (but not hugely) different with their stock surface, that if taken to the same dullness (3000, 500/2000, etc) their differences would remain. I'm kind of surprised that you didn't put at least a slightly different drilling on the Uncaged, since while the balls are different, they are not hugely different in overall ball reaction.

Also surprised at the lack of ball reaction on the Uncaged. A friend who loves to see lots of backend, seems to like his. I assume that either a weight hole or a new drilling will solve this problem.

There's always the remote possibility that the ball was somehow damaged during manufacture internally, since you don't see anything obviously wrong with the surface.

Good luck.

I have drilled 3 of these up for others and have yet to have any of them fuss about this ball not turning the corner  on 44' of oil. there speeds are between 15-19MPH and the rev rates do varry from each one but no ones under 400 revs.  2 balls were drilled pin up and 1 pin down, I like the way the pin up balls roll a little better because there able to get them down the lane just a touch further and boy do they turn the corner with no problem.   I have thrown 1 of the 1s pin up and the only thing I didnt like was my track flaired on the oppisite side of the ball but my bow tie was almost in the same spot over my finger holes and up about 3.5"  flairing left to right where on the uncages it flaired on the right side of my thumb hole.  The ball still hit like a mack truck even though it tracked on a totally different part of the ball.  you might find because you have higher ball speed you might want to lower your dual angle total #s the next time and youll see the ball start up much earlier for you then where you have it now at 85 + 35   I think this balls sweet spot if between 70 and 90   going into the 120's your just getting it to set up for you right and its going much longer before its wanting to set up properly.. just my take on watching 3 different bowlers throwing this ball and all three of them really liking how they roll.. 

I'm coming into this kind of late...but I have to agree with Motion hole and surface adjustments maybe a lower grit to get your ball to start a little sooner for you. People are shooting the lights out with this piece and a top seller. All my sym. pieces I went with the Motion hole. The best thing I have ever done.

Really aggressive pin to pap plus really aggressive weight hole should be interesting.