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CoorZero

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Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« on: June 13, 2017, 11:34:41 AM »
http://radicalbowling.com/balls/quick-fix

http://radicalbowling.com/balls/tremendous

Quick Fix is supposed to be stronger on the backend than the Fix so it's probably cleaner as well. The Tremendous is the original Guru with a new name and look but at a lower price point. Same core and coverstock. Interesting.

 

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2017, 10:04:46 AM »
Wouldnt REDUNDANT have been a better name than TREMENDOUS?

 Or, maybe, if it's a GURU, just say so. Don't call it something else, because it isn't.


 
I don't care what he calls it. For me, the original Guru was one of the better oilers I've ever owned. I'll still take it out of my bag before my Storm Sure Lock. I haven't been wowed by everything Radical, but the Guru was special to a lot of bowlers, so why not bring it back? I'd rather plop my money down on a known and proven ball than new "innovation" that turns out to be $230 of drilled hype.
 
Go easy. Radical churns out their share of bleeding edge stuff.

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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2017, 10:06:57 AM »
Wouldnt REDUNDANT have been a better name than TREMENDOUS?

 Or, maybe, if it's a GURU, just say so. Don't call it something else, because it isn't.

 Phil, I really liked your old Track stuff, and your Dynothane "SOAKER" coverstock is legendary, so you got some chops man. We get it, your good at this, REAL good.

 And maybe that's it. Maybe we've gotten used to you being really edgy, really innovative, and really fresh.

 Maybe we expect more than just relabeled rehashingly deceptive releases from you.

 You guys are supposed to be innovators. Innovators innovate.  Do that instead.

 WOW, wouldn't that be RADICAL? And AWESOME? And what you're known for?

 Cmon guys, don't get defensive, get busy.

You are right we could have named it a guru and raised the price like some of the other companies do, or we could have just reused the core and hide it like some other companies do. I decided to change the cover to the newest resins we have (guru cover is several years old) and give the consumer a price break since the tooling is already paid for. Sounds like the issue is with the name. I really can't get too upset over someone not liking the name, its all about performance. By the way there is no deception here we told everyone its the Guru Core.
I look at the big picture, even years down the road and learn from every launch, what we learn from this will be used in the future, you are right about one thing I have some "chops" you are wrong about me getting complacent, the cover is innovative and the best way to test it is on a proven core.
I hope you get to open up a bit and see how we do things. We have always been the innovators and always will. Look at the other guys, they are the ones that are doing the same things over and over and calling it something else or calling it the same thing and charging more!
« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 10:08:47 AM by newguy »

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2017, 10:10:41 AM »
Well said Phil, that's all it is, 'Same Ole recycled technology'.

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2017, 10:39:20 AM »

You are right we could have named it a guru and raised the price like some of the other companies do, or we could have just reused the core and hide it like some other companies do. I decided to change the cover to the newest resins we have (guru cover is several years old) and give the consumer a price break since the tooling is already paid for. Sounds like the issue is with the name. I really can't get too upset over someone not liking the name, its all about performance. By the way there is no deception here we told everyone its the Guru Core.
I look at the big picture, even years down the road and learn from every launch, what we learn from this will be used in the future, you are right about one thing I have some "chops" you are wrong about me getting complacent, the cover is innovative and the best way to test it is on a proven core.
I hope you get to open up a bit and see how we do things. We have always been the innovators and always will. Look at the other guys, they are the ones that are doing the same things over and over and calling it something else or calling it the same thing and charging more!

 I gotcha.

 If you actually changed the cover formula, then it IS different, and thus the different name.

 Cores get reused all the time, and that's understandable, as you've given the perfect example in saying there is no better way to showcase a different covers abilities than to put it on a proven core.

 The only name issue there was, was in the possible existence of EXACTLY the same ball with just a different label. This, according to you, is NOT the case.

 Sorry if you took my post as a personal affront, it was not meant that way. Rather, it was actually meant as a praise for you and the things you have developed and achieved in the industry, and to register my wonder at you re-releasing a ball with simply a name change, which you have explained is NOT what was done.

 Carry on my good man, and as always, let those creative juices flow. Nothing more intriguing than when a really smart, really good, really innovative dude gets his mojo on.

How RADICAL is that? 🎳
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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2017, 11:18:30 AM »

You are right we could have named it a guru and raised the price like some of the other companies do, or we could have just reused the core and hide it like some other companies do. I decided to change the cover to the newest resins we have (guru cover is several years old) and give the consumer a price break since the tooling is already paid for. Sounds like the issue is with the name. I really can't get too upset over someone not liking the name, its all about performance. By the way there is no deception here we told everyone its the Guru Core.
I look at the big picture, even years down the road and learn from every launch, what we learn from this will be used in the future, you are right about one thing I have some "chops" you are wrong about me getting complacent, the cover is innovative and the best way to test it is on a proven core.
I hope you get to open up a bit and see how we do things. We have always been the innovators and always will. Look at the other guys, they are the ones that are doing the same things over and over and calling it something else or calling it the same thing and charging more!

 I gotcha.

 If you actually changed the cover formula, then it IS different, and thus the different name.

 Cores get reused all the time, and that's understandable, as you've given the perfect example in saying there is no better way to showcase a different covers abilities than to put it on a proven core.

 The only name issue there was, was in the possible existence of EXACTLY the same ball with just a different label. This, according to you, is NOT the case.

 Sorry if you took my post as a personal affront, it was not meant that way. Rather, it was actually meant as a praise for you and the things you have developed and achieved in the industry, and to register my wonder at you re-releasing a ball with simply a name change, which you have explained is NOT what was done.

 Carry on my good man, and as always, let those creative juices flow. Nothing more intriguing than when a really smart, really good, really innovative dude gets his mojo on.

How RADICAL is that? 🎳

thank you, not taken personally just explaining what we do and why. Thanks again

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2017, 12:59:19 PM »
Thanks for the information Phil. Any chance of a replacement for the Rack Attacks? By the time I got around to getting one I couldn't find a Solid in 15lbs

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2017, 01:16:02 PM »
We are working on a better version. Can't say when but we are working on it.

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2017, 02:43:26 PM »
Interesting...

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2017, 03:00:04 PM »
we need to keep our supporters happy so they don't switch and become kool-ade drinkers...Lol

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2017, 05:39:59 PM »
Well, if you roll lighter than 14 lbs, and wanted to roll one of the Gurus, now you finally can

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2017, 07:53:10 PM »
Radical Quick fix
First of all let me tell you a little about me.
I'm a stroker. Pap of 5" over. Ball speed around 15 mph. Rev rate around 300 Rpms. I'm also left handed. My choice of layout was 65 x 5 1/4 x 40. With factory finish. ( Layout A )
This layout in this ball gets down the lanes very easily with continuation on the backend. It doesn't read the mids to early or to hard. It allows me to keep my target in front of me. Until the lanes open up. I think this is a great ball and layout for your typical house shot.

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2017, 12:09:33 PM »
just ordered my quick fix from the PSO, and going with an AYSM layout, not sure which one yet.

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Re: Quick Fix & Tremendous WWRD 7-11-17
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2017, 10:12:47 PM »
I love Radical Kool-Aid and I just bought a Tremendous! I have found that I match up to most of the Radical bowling balls that's been produced and will continue to be a fan of Phil and Mo! Does the name really make a difference? I've always wanted the original Guru and missed out. Now I get a chance with the new and improved Guru and I think it's Tremendous!! Thanks Phil and Radical
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