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Equipment Boards => Radical => Topic started by: BRCanada on January 23, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
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We did something a little different this time around, and added in another bowler, so this video features 2 testers. Our usual tester Jason used a 60x5x70 drilling, and Dan used the same but with a P3 hole. Dan is a little slower speed, and lower rev rate than Jason, and we hope that this style might appeal to more bowlers.
http://youtu.be/QE5hmcDEzTI
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Meh. Didn't look too great.... :(
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What was the speed and revs of these guys please
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Seems like the way every Radical reacted for me, roll roll and more roll.
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Thank you, I really appreciated the second bowler. It would seem to me that his style (and mine) are the main target (beneficiary?) for the EZ Use line and it looked great. Would really like to see a comparison between the GM and the Torrid Affair.
Mine should be delivered Saturday, looks like it will give me another great THS option on league night.
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Holy deflection, Batman! The ball looked great for Dan though. Was this a result of the weight hole? Why did the ball have no drive for Jason?
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mainly speed. this house shot is a little longer than most (43'), so it may appear that the back end isn't as crisp as some shorter "house shots" which are generally 38-40'.
also, i think i mention this last release. the alley changed the shot slightly since the start of the season. we try to keep it the same if possible, but sometimes its out of our control. they have been playing tighter the last few months
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The addition of another bowler does not concern me as much as the deletion of the comparison of a similar ball in the current line. It would be hard for me to compare the GM to the other Torrids without the overlay showing the 2 ball paths.
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Thank you for the explanation. The ball looked absolutely fantastic in Dan's hand
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The addition of another bowler does not concern me as much as the deletion of the comparison of a similar ball in the current line. It would be hard for me to compare the GM to the other Torrids without the overlay showing the 2 ball paths.
thanks for the feedback! we wanted to try something new.
we did throw the torrid affair a few times. give me a few days and ill edit it.
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The addition of another bowler does not concern me as much as the deletion of the comparison of a similar ball in the current line. It would be hard for me to compare the GM to the other Torrids without the overlay showing the 2 ball paths.
thanks for the feedback! we wanted to try something new.
we did throw the torrid affair a few times. give me a few days and ill edit it.
Now you're talking!!
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I think it's important to remember that we don't "want" every ball to be "perfect" in the videos-- here's why.
When we go bowling, what are we trying to accomplish? The correct ball reaction which matches the pattern and the surface on which we are competing. If we want to buy a new ball, isn't it better to see a reaction video where a ball might not look like a "perfect 10"?
In other words, watching Jason throw the GM and struggle actually gives me more info rather than him tossing it and everything reacting perfectly. Some layouts don't match up with the bowler and lane condition/surface. However, knock the drill angles down some (let's say 50x4x45) and I betcha the ball looks better than bowler number 2 does in the video.
Does the gm look greatnow? Depends on what you mean by "great". Can't wait to see some comparison shots-- at that point we can get a real read.
Please note-- my comments aren't meant to be harsh or demeaning; rather, I think we have become so accustomed to a ball rolling "perfectly" in a reaction video (after all, isn't that the intent of a marketing video?) that we forget that sometimes, equipment doesn't match up.
I'd rather see Jason struggle with a ball and save myself $150, or spend the money and already have a more rounded idea of what a ball can't and can do.......
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I have to say, we try really hard to keep our lane conditions as similar as possible in our vids for comparison purposes. However at times these conditions may not always make certain balls look amazing because the condition is simply not what they were designed to be amazing on. With all our drier lane pieces and entry level balls we try to do a video ( which will be coming ) with the balls being thrown on a more broken down shot. Thanks for all the comments guys. We are always trying to improve and welcome the comments good and bad. It's the only way to improve and give you guys what you want to see, a showcase and comparison of some great equipment.
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Please don't take my comment as criticism of you videos. I love your videos, and understand why the ball was deflecting so much now
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Oh we wouldn't take anything the wrong way. It's all good. We appreciate the support very much! Like I said all these balls are amazing on the patterns there made for. Last thing we want is to make a ball look bad. Stay tuned and thanks again.
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Please don't take my comment as criticism of you videos. I love your videos, and understand why the ball was deflecting so much now
CRITICIZERRRR!!!! Just kidding man; but I wanted to put my thoughts into this forum as well, but not to criticize you or how the GM clearly looked.
I get tired of always seeing a new ball "strike"............ when I buy a new ball and drill it, it rarely strikes. Can't figure out why-- they look the same as the equipment in the videos, but it rarely works that way for me :-)
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I look forward to seeing the GM on a shot after game 3; THS broken down some using other Radical equipment-- possibly tracking balls used and lines/attack strategy. Game 1 at the beginning on fresh, game 2 (adjustments?), game 3 (ball change? new target?), game 4 and beyond with the GM and other "weaker" Radical balls.
I know its a lot-- if you would be willing to fly me up to Canada (only covering my travel costs to and from BRCanada :-) ) I will be happy to assist in my ideas and the implementation of those thoughts.
Of course, I could just stop being lazy and come up there myself, but I like my "strategy" better.
Keep up the GREAT work BR Canada! You guys are great, and I (we!) appreciate the time and work you put into these videos and tutorials!
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Would the Grease Monkey be considered a dry lane ball ? If not what ball in the Radical line would be a dry lane ball ? Thanks Carlos
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Oh we wouldn't take anything the wrong way. It's all good. We appreciate the support very much! Like I said all these balls are amazing on the patterns there made for. Last thing we want is to make a ball look bad. Stay tuned and thanks again.
It is critical that the lane condition (heavy, fresh, or left over) match the intended use of the ball. Most once-a-week league bowlers do not modify the surface of their new ball unless it radically does not match the house pattern. Then off to the pro shop to "add some polish". Most do not know what abralon or siaair is.
The overlay of the ball paths are used to compare the new release to the current ball. I closely analyze the ball after it goes into the rack to see its deflection (or lack of it). I bought a ball last year that left some stone 9 pins on the videos and guess what - I left them also.
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hey weaser, i got totally caught up in my work, and forgot to edit up that comparison. we are shooting more video today, so ill be in edit mode, and ill get it done.
sorry about that.
jeff
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What I really like about the video is the second bowler wearing the Phil and Mo character tee shirt. Nice touch.
Phil
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hey weaser, i got totally caught up in my work, and forgot to edit up that comparison. we are shooting more video today, so ill be in edit mode, and ill get it done.
sorry about that.
jeff
Good to hear. I'm very interested in seeing some head to head comparison to wrap my brain around where this ball lies. (Fingers crossed it's with the Torrid Affair)