3.5 inch pin to CG....I never saw so much bull shit because I said a ball was a dud. Get over it already. Sorry Im not the pro shop guy and havnt been to the ball expo etc.... I bought a ball for heavier oil, had it drilled for heavier oil / sport  / flat patterns. It didnt work as expected on these conditions. But thats how it is, like it or not.

And once again you have proven why bowling has gone downhill. You cannot provide the information needed to make anything close to of an answer for us to help understand and to possibly give you help so your ball is not a DUD on the heavy oil you bought it for.
Your subsequent answers prove exactly why pro shops are less friendly. Pro shop drills a ball, bowler uses it, doesn't like it, bashes ball on internet and maybe even the shop that drilled it.

It is NOT BS as you say....but the stats needed are how to set up a ball properly for the intended condition. Understanding this information about each bowler is the pro shop's job and why good operators are paid $60 or more to drill a ball. There is more to it than putting 3 holes in the ball.


And finally...if your original post would have stated "REAX not working as expected on heavy oil" like your last post did instead of "DUD" I think my response (and others) would have been very different.

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3.5 inch pin to CG....I never saw so much bull shit because I said a ball was a dud. Get over it already. Sorry Im not the pro shop guy and havnt been to the ball expo etc.... I bought a ball for heavier oil, had it drilled for heavier oil / sport  / flat patterns. It didnt work as expected on these conditions. But thats how it is, like it or not.

The fact that you're crying over a ball not performing on the condition you bought it for, and insisting that the pin to CG distance is at all relevant (it's not) is bullshit. You posted here making a blanket statement that the ball is a dud, and we're trying to help you because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. All you have to do is call your pro shop and ASK him what the distance of the pin from your PAP is, and then post that information here. It's possible that you had the ball drilled too weak to perform on heavier conditions.

The ball isn't gong to handle heavy oil if you drilled it with a 6" pin-PAP. The distance of the pin from the CG means absolutely nothing, it doesn't factor into ball reaction at all and if you can't grasp that, call it bullshit etc, then you sir have a case of cranial-rectal inversion. Get your PAP from your driller and ask him how far he placed the pin from your axis. That's all it takes, you may need to plug and redrill the ball. It's not a hard concept.

We need more negative ball reviews.  If a ball doesn't match up or isn't what a bowler expects, whats wrong with saying so?  Not all bowlers are knowledgeable in the ball specs or layout lingo.  Just read the ball reviews.  Every ball listed is reviewed as the best ever, hits like a truck, recovers on errant shots, holds on tugged shots etc. I have had balls for dry lanes be much stronger than advertised as well as heavy oil balls not as strong. On that note I do agree that he should exhaust all options before declaring a ball a mismatch.

My dad and I have had very similar experiences with our Reax's..  Mine was great out of the box and after only a handful of games lost almost all reaction...  Did several things to try and revive it, but nothing..  I have some video I shot originally when I got the ball, was very impressed with it, but have nothing "after"..  If I get the motivation to throw some balls sometime this summer I may take another video..  As for my dad's, his Yeti is a ton more than the Reax..  I have tried mine on several different oil patterns and several surfaces and I know the ball is not burning up in the heads.. 

Not saying the ball is a dud, cause I really really liked it off the drill press..  something has changed, just not sure what.

In his words it isn't a dud. He just can't use it on heavy oil but rolls fine on other shots. It doesn't hook as much as other hook monsters. I woudln't consider it a dud but would be a bit disappointed not getting what I was expecting. Still for heavier flatter patterns I would want the pin in the 3.5" to 3" range from my PAP. I'm guessing if he is like many others on average it is closer to 5" from his PAP based off where he said the pin is located.

As for Jhutch769, have your tried resurfacing the ball back to factory finish? The Yeti is a polished ball which requires much less maintenance and will experience slower surface changes vs the Reax. Box is 500 then 1500. May be worth trying to help get the teeth back in the ball.

So nothing in the 3" to 4.5" range?

kid, short answer, yes.