Ive never thrown a VE, but having seen a bunch of them, its much sharper than the Slant. Mine is very clean, lot of backend, but its more arcing than the VE.

Thanks for the input.  I think I'll punch one up and give it a try.  I'm excited to see the new offerings this year since Mo Pinel has teamed up with Phil.

When the Torrid Elite gets in my hands i'll give you some input on how it rolls and to see the different dynamics that the Brunswick cover will bring over to our line of balls.  Definitely looking forward to throwing it. 

Well, I just ordered my 16lb Slant Hybrid and am having it layed out 50x3.75x40.  Can't wait to roll this baby and see what Radical is all about.  I like the fact that this ball company is designed around the pro shop operators and the league bowler.  What finish does the hybrid come OOB?

Be sure to post your opinions on the ball,I'm very curious.

I have my Slant HD sitting here waiting to be drilled. Thinking I am going to go with a 60x5x30 and see how hard it peels off the dry. Can't wait.

Did you ever pick up the Torrid you were talking about buying.I bought one a few weeks ago,it's much smoother than I was expecting.

I did get one, and just ordered a second from Steve. Trust me, that is a ball that you want to have a spare nib one of, because it's just that good. How did you get yours drilled? My Heat remake was drilled 80x5x35, and it was awesome on the house shots because of the way the ball reads the dry. Not real flippy, due to the low rg, but it reads the wet dry for me great. I know I am going to love my Torrids!

I'm not very well versed on layouts,I can tell you that the pin is about an inch above the bridge, and the cg is swung out about one and one half inches outside my ring finger.I am  actually very pleased with the reaction of the Torrid.It is much more predictable than the traditional skid/flip pearl reaction which I was expecting. I gave away a bunch of equipment recently,and I was considering either a Slant Hybrid, or a 900 Global War Eagle to go above the Torrid,any thoughts?

I don't see a ton,and probably 90% of the time,the Torrid, or my Cyclones will be plenty of ball.However,I do like to be prepared just in case!(That's my excuse,and I'm sticking to it! You're right,we did hijack this thread,sorry guys!