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Track_Fanatic

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Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« on: November 08, 2014, 11:39:16 PM »
I've thrown a Raidcal torrid but want to try their newer stuff. I'm throwing Storm/Roto Grip right now and need another change. Currently in my arsenal is Shout, Lights Out, Deranged, and the Asylum.  I'm looking at Yeti Uncaged. How would this compare to the Deranged? 
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2014, 12:51:13 AM »
Probably with more movement down lane.  Wait for New guy to respond!  He tell you the best info :)
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2014, 08:10:50 AM »
Just like billdozer said, IMO you will see the Uncaged get down lane farther and have more motion on the backend. If you're a high track player, you could MOtion hole this ball. Mo like to recommend this layout with a lot of high track and low tilt bowlers. Seeing you have listed all symmetrical balls . . . Have you had any luck with asymmetricals? The Score is a fantastic piece. The Reax core with the new cover stock will be a perfect benchmark type reaction. Compared to the black Reax and Reax Pearl . . . This ball gets down lane better than the Black Reax and has more overall hook than the Reax Pearl. Plus the promotion is a great way to score some cash and prizes.
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2014, 08:59:43 AM »
I've tried asymetrical equipment before.  When Track was in SA, I used the Xception, the Rule series, the Machine. Then I tried the 900 Global stuff of the Break Series, the Bank series, and then The Look. Then their AMF stuff of the Clutch series. I also tried the original Mission from Ebonite. Out of all of those, the Xception, Break Out, and the Mission rolled were the ones i had success with. The best symmetrical balls I've ever thrown was the Arsenal Artillery. I lean more toward symmetrical equipment now. Not sure why.

Tommymo- I do track high with little tilt, I haven't read up on the Motion Hole and I'm sure the information I need is on bowlingchat, but in a nut shell, how would this help someone with a high track?  I've read some posts on here that mention the motion hole just makes the ball skid forever and then I hear the opposite.  I know surface is key to ball reaction but am curious.  Can they be used in both assym and symmetrical??

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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2014, 09:17:05 AM »
Motion holes on asymmetrical equipment is hard because of the placement of the CG. Not all asyms are perfectly in line and therefore can create an issue getting the ball static legal. Mo does not recommend drilling asyms w/ motion hole layout. Here's right from Mo himself:   MOtion Hole layouts work best for high track players because the increase in gyroscopic inertia causes the ball to retain axis rotation much longer into the friction resulting in a later, sharper breakpoint when the ball does eventually lose axis rotation suddenly.
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2014, 10:31:48 AM »
I have the Grease Monkey POW, which I really like, needs some oil, but is a very good ball. I also think the new Score will be a great piece from what I've seen of it.
Robert Bowler has posted scores on here that are above average for most everyone with that piece.
I'd PM him, he'll give you great feedback.
 Radical is a very good brand.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
Bob
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2014, 10:54:01 AM »
I've drilled a bunch of Scores over the past week. It is a fantastic ball. Don't be fooled on their new drill sheet . . . It may not go with what we previously thought, but the A-D drillings work very well. I've used A a lot for my customers, the 50/5/40 w/P3 balance hole works great, even for low tilt bowlers. Their new drill sheet is simplified but it works well.
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2014, 12:44:33 PM »
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I'm sure the information I need is on bowlingchat, but in a nut shell, how would this help someone with a high track?

All the information you need is there.  Others here are just guessing for the most part.  newguy knows but Mo can give you more defined information as to layouts etc.  Plus you have a number of devoted Radical pro shop operators that frequent there plus others that understand dual angle better than most with correct bowling stats. as an input.

I have been using an original Yeti with a MOtion hole all I can say is I think of it enough to think about purchasing other Radical.  I am looking at a Score for medium/benchmark.
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2014, 01:06:48 PM »
As a bowlingchat member and proshop operator. I agree with Scotts33 that there's a lot of info and a great chance that Mo, himself, will help you with layouts. I respectfully disagree that everyone here is just guessing. Yes, your detailed stats are needed to make a more accurate recommendation for layouts, surface prep and even ball selection. But in general, no one was "just guessing"
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2014, 01:10:06 PM »
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Yes, your detailed stats are needed to make a more accurate recommendation for layouts, surface prep and even ball selection. But in general, no one was "just guessing"

How many times have you seen a member here give detailed stats.?  Most over estimate their rev rates and ball speed.  Crap in crap out as we say.  That's my meaning Thomas.
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Re: Wanting to try a newer Radical ball
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 06:56:30 AM »
Track The Uncaged will be the way to go similar motions but the Uncaged is going to be more continous on the backend. Here are a few more suggestions if look at replacing your arsenal: Grease Monkey,  Grease Monkey POW, Yeti Unleashed or Score.
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