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Cool Rocking Daddy

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What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« on: January 19, 2015, 03:42:20 PM »
Two of my team mates have just gotten this ball and make my Yeti untamed look like a Urethane ball.  Will the Unleashed compete?
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2015, 10:43:14 PM »
I was giving you MY shop prices. I don't buy off the Internet. I am a brick and mortar that could push your equipment. When your equipment IS comparable to others price wise, why should I? The Gusto was for light/medium oil yet yielded the same price as the Guru. IJS.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2015, 11:47:50 PM »
tkk,

Everyone that should know wholesale prices already does, there is no need to mention the actual price differences on a public forum.  The general public doesn't need to know everything about the business.

As for the equipment you push through your shop, unless there is incentive to do so it is not necessary to create demand for any specific brand.  If Radical wanted to offer shops an incentive to push the product they would price protect the balls at a higher price while keeping the wholesale price where it is. 
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2015, 12:20:12 AM »
Obviously Phil does not understand. I never mentioned the actual price, so I fail to see the issue. And the prices fluctuate per distributor. I can mention the price difference if I very well please as I have yet to see where I can't.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2015, 12:27:54 AM »
It's professional courtesy and using your better judgement to not post actual numbers about wholesale pricing.

Obviously you want to be a punk and will be treated as one.  Post away.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2015, 01:01:33 AM »
I have yet to see professional courtesy in this thread. Sorry.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2015, 03:05:18 AM »
Instead of helping the OP y'all have turned this thread into a pissing match. Obviously you have an issue with Brunswick/DV8/Radical equipment for whatever reason. Just stay out of the threads.

The objective is to help people, not troll and hijack others threads.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2015, 03:40:19 AM »
tkk....considering you have posted multiple times in this thread and your last post admits there has been no professional courtesy in this thread, maybe we should let Vice know how one of their staff members act on a public forum? I think allaboutme tried to helpyou and you swatted him away. So you have a problem with the brunswick rep, fine, stop hijacking the OP's post.

CRD....as for the Yeti Unleashed vs the Hyper Cell Skid...guy bowling next to me was using both last night (in practice/house shot). Pins were in similar locations but the HCS has a weight hole in the thumb quadrant and the Yeti had no hole. Yeti had roughly an out of box surface and the HCS looked out of box as well. I saw him move in with the Yeti while the HCS gave him a cleaner look i nthe heads and more movement on the back.

Just my observations of one person on one lane for one night. Doesn't mean it will all be like this.

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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2015, 04:34:23 AM »
I just went back and reread the whole thread. John made a comment about having customers who still do not but Brunswick because of the Mexico deal. I then talked with BrunsNICK, who has since deleted his messages, and we talked about pricing for a few posts. Notice with his being deleted, I look like a tard. So, 38309, the lack if professionalism was far from just "me." And what did AAM try and help me with? I never posted a single dollar amount. Just pricing differences. Where's the harm in letting the consumer know that WE as pro shops are not seeing a price difference? If you are in the industry, then you know that the PSO is the one blasted about pricing, not the distributor nor the company.

As for the OP's  questions, nothing compares currently. I am sure Radical will do some marketing video showing who's stuff hooks when and why theirs will carry better. But until then, the V2 Pearl and Gusto are weaker, considerably.

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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2015, 04:58:54 AM »
I am in the industry. However, as you have pointed out, sometimes what is true (pricing) is better left unsaid as you need to take the high road. You are fighting a losing battle. You are the professional, you are held to a higher standard, like it or not, and one of the things we don't talk about is pricing.

I am done posting about this in this thread unless it relates to the OPs original comments or a follow-up question.

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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2015, 06:41:12 AM »
Easy answer --- get a HYPER CELL SKID and OWN IT!
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2015, 08:06:20 AM »
I have to side with tkkshop here, that there is not much professionalism here and yes there were posts removed some directed at me
You can call it hijacking or trolling but it is an open forum open to ANYONE'S opinion and thoughts whether you like it or not...you can support whoever you wish but it's also a persons right to, in helping point another's 'shortcomings'...if this is a Brunswick loyalists ONLY post, well good luck with that...
We all defend who or what we think is right and when you are a consumer at. Whatever level, it doesn't show much when 'attacked' by company reps...no matter the situation you should be strong enough to allow your product to stand on it's own merits not using tactics such attacking another or using pricing...arrogance usually doesn't work
Again this is my opinion, no one else's, but in certain arenas as of late, this demeanor seems to be the norm...we attack those that have the audacity to not like our product...and again to me, this is a weird selling style
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2015, 08:48:16 AM »
Ric,

All I said was there is no need to post actual price differences.  Things can be debated without using actual figures.  And from being in the position you are, if you don't agree with that, well, you are wrong.

As for Nick and Phil being confrontational, I don't know Phil's arrangement with Brunswick, so he may not have anyone to answer to, but Nick sure does.  If you want to post things like some of the stuff he does he should probably get an alter ego.  If you have to go back and delete posts you obviously weren't representing your company as well as you should.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2015, 08:59:08 AM »
Nick first posted pricing...pricing that should not have been posted in an open forum...that's what started not what anyone else did...he removed those posts after the fact
Again I'm not arguing I'm pointing out reality...we live in a shrinking market why would you want to shrink it more by eliminating customers
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2015, 11:09:53 AM »
Ric is right. I shouldn't be getting into pricing discussions on a public forum. I was called out on it and so I removed myself from the conversation. Moving forward.

To the OP, stay tuned tomorrow for the next Radical announcement.
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Re: What Radical piece will compare to Hyper Cell Skid
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2015, 11:30:54 AM »
The fact of the matter is, consumer pricing for high radical is lower than the competition. $150 vs. $160 and up!  Gotta give it to em on that. Especially if it does out perform the competition.
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