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Cell
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Coverstock: Cytoplasmicâ„¢ Solid Reactive
Weight Block:Nucleusâ„¢
Ball Color:Turquoise / Navy / Black All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Ball Finish:2000 Abralon
Hook Potential: 7" + (High) on a scale of 1-10 Low-High
RG Differential: 0.048 (Medium-High Flare) on a scale of .000-.080 Low Flare-High Flare
RG Average: 2.52 (Medium-Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.80 Very Low-High Break Point
Recommended Lane Conditions: Heavy Oil
Description: The all-new Cellâ„¢ is an evolutionary design infusing our highly advanced asymmetrical Nucleusâ„¢ core with our Cytoplasmicâ„¢ solid reactive coverstock. This combination sustains high differential throughout the lanes and produces continuous hook on the heaviest oil patterns.
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Re: Cell
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2008, 04:20:19 PM »
Short review as I have only 2 games on my Cell so far. Pap about5x1/2, speed 16mph, revs approx 300. Ball drilled 4x6 with the pin above and right of the ring finger and the mass bias next to thumb. Got the Cell on Sunday and tried it out in my Travel League at a new house(resurface wood lanes) I have never bowled at. Shot was about37,38 feet light with oil over the previous nights Rock and Bowl. Pretty much became a reverse block with more friction in the middle and less outside and very little back end. Decided to throw the Cell 17 to 8 and stay out of the slop outside. Go 220,256 with the first 8 the second game befor a ten pin and operator error split in the 10th. Ball was smooth as silk and had a nice hit to it without being to sensitive. I could even get it into the out of bounds and it would move enough to leave only a 7 or 2 pin. Will update after winter league starts(wood) and next travel league stop on synthetics.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2008, 08:29:10 PM »
I have two Cell ball drilled.  One with the pin above the finger and one with the pin below the fingers and the mass bias kicked out to the VAL.  These ball hit like nothing I've ever had in my bag.  The midlane reaction is great and the continuous backend provides carry even on off-pocket hits.  I am a lower rev player  and this ball gives me the backend and pin action I always desired.  This is the first and sometimes the only ball out of my bag.

I can't wait to see the new pearl cell.  This should be in everyone arsenal.  

This ball is so exciting to watch going down the lane, other bowlers are in my leagues are taking notice and I am seeing more on the rack every week.

This ball works best on heavy and medium oil.
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Re: Cell
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2008, 03:18:25 AM »
I've had my Cell for quite a few months, and it is the ball everyone says it is.  I keep it with a 1000 abralon surface, and use is more often than not as the first ball out of my bag on all the PBA patterns except Cheetah, and rarely find a use for it on house conditions, as I prefer to use longer, less aggressive equipment for that type of shot.  Mine is drilled pin just under the ring finger and the MB kicked out to the right, weight hole was not necessary.  The Cell is close to my Break and Attitude Shift in terms of overall hook, but the Cell is very smooth, predictable, and has fantastic pin carry.  Could be a heavy oil ball, could be a medium oil ball with the right layout and surface.  Wish I had taken it to Albuquerque in June for Nationals, may have just put my over the hump I wasn't able to get past there this year.  Definitely one of the very top balls of the year from any manufacturer in my opinion.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2008, 01:09:32 PM »
I have drilled 3 cells 1st 5x3 mass on val 2nd 5x4 mass on val with low weight hole and 4x4 mass in strong posistion. 1st I would like to say that its been a very long time since I have been so impressed with a ball. Its amazing how forgiving the Cell is for being such a strong ball. I cant ever remember having 3 of the same ball and bowled so well with each one. I have had 300 with all 3 of them, won a regional title with the 5x3 mass on val and won 4 local tournaments with the other 2. I am still amazed at how smooth this ball is compared to other big hook balls...its almost like cheating at times when using Cells. They way they continue through the pins is crazy and also the pins stay low which usually creates better carry. For anyone who hasnt drilled a Cell and is in the market for a new ball just read the reviews and watch people use it...you wont be sorry for trying a cell.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2008, 08:24:31 AM »
Pin above the bridge with the CG kicked out just a bit.

I have had mine for a few months now, and have posted a few honor scores with it.  The ball has a great mid-lane read and continues hooking through the pins.  The hitting power is incredible.  Take a minute and watch someone who is throwing a Cell, or check out a video on you-tube.  The pins fly differently with the Cell than with other equipment.  Check the racks in your league or in tournaments to see how many people have Cell's.  The Cell is a must have.
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Re: Cell
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2008, 12:38:08 AM »
Have 2 cells and thats almost all I need. I'm a right handed power stroker on staff with Rotogrip since 2002, so I've thrown all the Rotgrips and this ones the best(although also check out my review of the Cell pearl).
Ball 1 Drilled with the pin and mb 5 inch from pap which put the cg just off center of grip and shinned it up. Ball clears heads with ease the turn very well and smooth no jurking motion. Can play straigther with speed or slow hook it, I've had lots off success both ways.
ball 2 ,Pro pin, Drilled pin 5 inch and mb 3 inch cg just off center of grip, left this one dull. It works in more oil with a more diffined snap. Can also gho straight or slow hook with this as well. With these two set up I feel I can cover most lane conditions from PBA shots to house shots. With out a Cell your just not trying.
  Get this ball, Good luck.Ron Case
P.S. Did you see my natural(all 10 pin strikes) 900 sieres in a no-tap tourn with the shined Cell.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2008, 02:07:57 PM »
I just recently gave in to all the hype and purchased a Roto-Grip Cell. My stats are:  speed 17-19 mph, rev rate around 300, pap 4 9/16 over and 3/8 up, and low axis tilt.

I have had a chance to throw the ball a couple weeks now and in two different houses. The layout puts the pin to pap at around 5" with the mb to PAP being about 4" and about a 2" pin buffer.

The first house is a 42' heavier oil house shot. At this house I have always struggled first game due to the heavier oil which would generally result in a lot of weak 10 pins. Now that I have the Cell this is no longer an issue and I am deeper than I generally am at this house. I am starting around 17 at the arrows to about 7 at the breakpoint. The first game has now become my better scoring game. At this house the Cell starts to make its move in the midlane and has a controllable but fairly angular breakpoint.

By the 2nd game I found myself making about a 4 and 2 move to the left and still find myself carring just about anything that makes it in the pocket. The only problem I have found with this ball at this house is that I end up putting it away once they dry up a little more. I have put it away 2 weeks in a row when I should have just moved left and kept throwing it. I have never thrown a heavy oil ball that allows me to keep moving left without fighting roll out and endless 10 pins until I got the Cell.

The second house is actually a very different house shot. It creates an OB outside of 5 and has high friction in the middle of the lane. Similar to a reverse block but not as drastic. I have found that the Cell is the only ball in my bag I can play the extreme outside with any consistency. My other heavier oik balls will get squirty and not want to hook (These include the NVD and Noize). Playing the inside part of the lane, keeping my breakpoint between 10 and 12, the Cell has allowed me more room of error than any other ball on this pattern. It has given me and extra boards or 2 of room at the breakpoint not to necessarily get to the pocket but to carry due to the continuation it creates.

Overall, I am very impressed with the way the ball continues through the pocket. Most of all I can't believe the way this ball allows you to get deep, get the ball in friction and still keep enough energy making it through the pin deck to carry those pesky corner pins. I will still have my occasional ringing 10 but the flat 10's are few and far between. The other great thing about his ball is how controllable it is. It very seldom over reacts unless it is time to make a move. My only knock on this ball so far is that I have to refresh the surface once a week or so, but that is with almost any ball.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2008, 12:33:52 PM »
Just recently got my 2nd Cell. I got this directly from Roger due to my Battle cracking(Thank you, Roger)This ball I had laid out 4x4 with a 1.5" pin buffer. I have never had a ball this strong in my life. I am a right handed stroker with med to low speed and can swing this ball like I am a cranker. I have yet to see any quit in this ball, I just need more oil!!!! I must admit I had my doubts about the Cell replacing the Battle in heavy oil but not any more.  I cannot wait to get the Cell Pearl. Roto definately is onto something big with this line of balls. Keep up the great work Roger, and Hank!!!!!


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Re: Cell
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2008, 12:31:00 AM »
Ball Specs-
15lbs
2.5 to 3 in pin
Drilled 4x4
In between Stroker and Tweener. 17mph

Played 30 games so far.

39 ft Medium THS - I like to play as direct as possible but this is just not possible with this ball and set up. Starting over the middle arrow out to around 5, I have to keep up the ball speed. It just crushes the pocket. Unfortunately just too much ball so if it does come out, I will stick with it thru maybe the first game.

42 ft Medium-Heavy THS oob outside 10 with brand new slick synthetics - This ball is money. 19 to 10 and it will just walk in and crush the pocket. I might move 2 boards during the 4 game set. It does not have much issues with carry down either which is a huge bonus.

Likes - It is just amazing how this ball rolls. It is almost cheating because the ball can auto correct itself from a majority of bad releases. It packs a demanding punch at the pocket. Pin carry is just awesome.

Dislikes - Like most heavier oilers, it does need head oil and will puke on the backend or not hold line without head oil. Not that this is a bad thing but it does rev up early and will burn energy.

Maintenance - After dealing with a couple of dead ball early syndromes from previous equipment (not from Roto-Grip), all of my equipment gets hot baths after 12 games. It is hit with cleaner after the night is finished and wiped with a cloth before the following throw. This ball has not lost anything yet after 30 games. I will update if it does not make it passed 100.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2008, 04:01:56 AM »
Ball Specs: 15lbs w/3 in. Pin and 2.5 oz Top Weight

Bowler info:
Pap is 5 1/4 over and 5/8 up
High Tweener - 17 mph's normal...325'ish Rev Rate...
Low Axis Tilt, High Axis Rotation

Drilled 5 x 3 with a 2 inch Pin Buffer and weight hole on P4.
Statics: 5/8 finger, 3/8 side.

I have only been able to test this ball on a couple varieties of house shots.  One my typical league night shot, the ball is migrating off it's axis at about 12 feet and dead at 20..*laugh*.  I have to get seriously deep and then can only attack for about 4 shots of practice before it is too much ball.  A second house shot has a touch more head oil with a larger pool in the middle and I can a slight bump shot from 25 to about 15 and the Cell is serious money.  Very early revving, yet very continuous and while strong and controllable off the break point.  The hit is quite phenomenal and the ball just drives through the pins like a Monster Truck over those poor cars.  Again, I can only play this line for about a game and that is it as will start the burnup process.  

I am completely impressed by this ball and can't wait to find some serious oil to give it a go.  We will be starting up our PBA Experience league and can't wait as should have many opportunities to throw it.  The pro shop I work in has sold quite a few to many strokers and they are just tearing it up with this ball.  

Overall a great ball at a great price!  Figure this will fill my heavy oil ball slot for quite some time to come.

 


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Re: Cell
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2008, 02:29:00 AM »
The Cell…what a BALL!! I personally have NEVER heard a bad word spoken about this ball and I know why.  This ball is the strongest and hardest hitting ball I have thrown since back when I threw an original No Mercy. Hands down this is my “go-to” ball in every occasion… WAY TO GO ROTO GRIP!!!!  I cant wait to throw your new Cell Pearl because I’m sure it will be just as much of a beast as the original!!!
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Re: Cell
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2008, 04:09:36 PM »
My specs:
18mph
PAP -  4  1/2  right  1 /2 up

-I drilled 2 of these:
Ball #1:  5  x  3 box finish. Pin ended up above the middle finger cg/mb  kicked right with axis on the midline.
  House patterns- Ball rolled alot through the fronts and had a strong continuous backend movement.
  SPORT: This ball was great on the fresh due to the length and the smooth roll on the backend. Once carrydown set in I had to switch to somethin with a little more kick.
  OVERALL: Great addition to the line

Ball #2: pin under middle finger (2" below finger) cg in thumb quadrant MB kicked right.
  House Patterns: This ball owned house patterns with my ball speed and this low pin this ball gave alot of room for error and still hit the hole.
   SPORT: Ball was good on the longer oil patterns that sport bowling has out (scorpion, Shark- with a dull coverstock)
   OVERALL: I rolled a ton of good scores. With this drill pattern and great piece by Roto Grip it matched my game to a tee!
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Re: Cell
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2008, 10:46:10 PM »
My bowling stats:

PAP: 5.75” Over .25” Up
Average Speed: 18.5 MPH
RPM’s: 400+

Ball(s) Stats:

“Early” Cell
Pin Location: 4” From PAP
Mass Bias Location: 20 Degrees (ends up being past my VAL)
Weight Hole Location: On PAP
Personal Favorite Surface: Gray Or Red Scotch Brite

“Continuous” Cell
(Layed Out Using Roto-Grips “5x3” in their drilling chart)
Weight Hole: On PAP
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Gray Scotch Brite

“Straight” Cell
Pin Location: 5.5"/Directly Under Bridge
Mass Bias Location: 70 Degrees
Weight Hole: None
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Highly Polished


“Trick Layout” Cell
Pin Location: 6" from PAP WAY ABOVE Ring Finger
Mass Bias Location: 45 Degrees (Above and Right of Thumb)
Weight Hole: 3.5" Over 1" Up
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Polished or White Scotch Brite

Review:
Conditions I Would Consider Using The Ball On:
Medium/Longer Patterns
Medium/Heavier Volumed Patterns
Clean To Sloppy Backended Patterns
Medium to Higher Volumed House Shots

The Cell was the ball that I have been looking for since the discontinuation of the Epic Battle. Believe it or not, the Cell can cover even more territory than what the Battle did, and I contribute this to the great cover/core combination on the Cell. As long as the cover is prepped properly for the condition, I can’t see any reason why a Cell wouldn’t fit the bill on anything outside the shortest or driest of patterns (and even then, if a person has higher ball speed and tilt the Cell could still fit the bill). Of my 4 Cells, I would categorize them like this:

“Early” Cell:
 
As the name implies, this ball is very early. Even when I prep the surface with Gray (or even white) scotch brite, this ball burns up energy quicker than nearly any other ball I have ever drilled (which is exactly what I drilled it for BTW). I had fairly good success last year at the Bowlers Journal by switching to this ball and playing straight up the outside with softer speed along with end over end roll.

“Continuous” Cell

This is the first time I’ve drilled a ball with this particular layout, and it surly will not be the last. I would consider this my bench mark ball. For me, this ball has very quick and early revs, but no early burn out as I have seen in other balls. I suppose I could say that it almost has a urethane type of roll on it as it doesn’t really jump off the spot but is very continuous when it reads the end of the pattern.

“Straight” Cell
 
The name I gave this Cell is a bit deceitful. The reason I named it that is because that is the way this Cell darts through the heads when playing down and in. I love using this ball on house shots where you have to play near the oil line, or on shorter sport patterns where you can play near the gutter. I had great success using this ball last year at the Roto-Grip Challenge at Nationals.

“Trick Layout” Cell

Named for the Tommy Jones layout. I would consider this to be my most versatile and angular Cell ounce for ounce. I am able to use this particular ball on a wider variety of conditions longer than the other Cells. However, unless you have a higher rev rate, I would not recommend this layout.


Conditions that I would not consider using these balls on:
Low Volume Patterns
Extremely Short Patterns

Roto-Grip Balls Up or Down:
Ball Up In Reaction: A stronger Surfaced/Drilled Cell
Ball Down In Reaction: Cell Pearl or Grand Illusion


Thank you for your time in reading this review. I hope that you have found it to be helpful. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me and I will try to help you as much as I can.
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Re: Cell
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2008, 07:01:50 PM »
ROTOGRIP-CELL
BALL SPEC'S
Pin Length-4"
Ball Weight-16lbs.
COVERSTOCK
Cytoplasmic Solid Reactive
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP 3"
CG to PAP 3 ½"
MB to PAP 6" located in the thumb hole.
5/8 diam.  Weight hole


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BOWLER STYLE
RH, Medium/Low Rev's, High Track 13 degree's axis tilt, speed 15.5 mph at pins.
PAP is 5 7/8' x 5/8"up
SURFACE PREP.
O.O.B. 2000 Abralon, also tried 4000 Abralon, also tried 10,000 grit polish,also tried 500 Abralon, also 400 & 800 grit wet/dry and gray scotchbrite.
LANE CONDITION
Brunswick Pro Anvil lanes the pattern is a medium total length about 41' including the buffed area.
BALL REACTION/COMMENTS
Too start with after trying several finishes on the coverstock, I found the Cell was very smooth and predictable no matter which surface was used.
The strength of this ball depends on the the amount of rev's applied to it. I found that with lower rev's you need more surface to handle the oil better. ( this goes with what was said in BTM's  Jan.08 issue about the ball.)
On the fresh pattern  as I shined the ball, it would increase the length it got ,thus wouldn't read the dry early enough for me. Which forced me right with it, while I could hit the pocket with it. The carry wasn't there, there was a lot of corner pins/light hits.
The place where the shined up ball worked best was on a dry lane. Shined up with the 10,000 grit polish, the ball was fantastic. The ball was consistent and had amazing hitting power.
On the fresh/oilier pattern I found the duller surface worked better for me. It would read the dry better, while still getting good length. The ball produced a strong driving roll, which carried the pins well keeping them low.
I would say if you have lower rev's. If you want to use the ball on fresh or oilier shots it needs have more surface, then put away as the shot goes. If you want it for the drier times then shine it and wait before you pull it out of the bag.

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Re: Cell
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2008, 02:56:06 PM »
This ball is simply amazing my first night with it i shoot 737 i was the only person to have it in our league after it was released we only had 10 teams on not a typical house shot but everyone had a hard time getting a solid reaction out of the ball but me. the ball revved up fast with a smooth transition i have never had this much confidence in the recovery of a ball it was great. I got a 4 inch pin drilled to go long with the pin placed about 1.5 inches over my ring finger. Needless to say the next week my dad had a cell the guy i was bowling had a cell and so did about 7 other people this ball is amazing and the results are the proof my dad ran his high game of 289 with his just weeks after getting it while raising his average 12 pins on the last half of the season. If your looking for a solid ball reacton and a good read of the lanes this is the ball for you. Thanks Roto Grip for creating such great products!
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