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Horizon
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Since the dawn of the 21st Century no one can compete with the success that Roto Grip® has had in the mid-price category. The introduction of the all-new HORIZONTM reinforces that truth by building upon the legacy that the RetroTM Line and the RSTM Series have established.

Featuring the new HeliosTM weight block, this unique design delivers a lower RG and medium differential for consistent mid-lane motion along with an angular move off the spot. The single density core guarantees a higher coefficient of restitution for increased hitting power, even on those off-pocket hits!

We have taken the best characteristics from our past and have created the outstanding True GripTM pearl reactive coverstock. It comes to you in a 1500 grit polish for added length and maximum energy retention at the break point on those medium patterns.

The dawn of a new era is upon you, so jump on board or get run over!


Specifications


Factory Finish  1500- Polished  
Track Flare Potential  5 Inches  
Lane Condition  Medium Oil  
Cover Stock  Ultimate Griptm Pearl Reactive  
Weight Block  Heliostm Core  
Color  Sunset Orange / Desert Copper  
D-Scale  75 -78  
Available Weights  12 -16 Pounds




Core Dynamics


WEIGHTS  RG  DIFFERENTIAL  
16 lb.  2.46 (Low)  .048 (High)  
15 lb.  2.47 (Low)  .052 (High)  
14 lb.  2.49 (Low)  .051 (High)  
13 lb.  2.60 (High)  .032 (Med)  
12 lb.  2.60 (High)  .032 (Med)


 

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2006, 11:26:47 AM »
I recently drilled (2) Horizons. The first one I put the pin 5" from my PAP above my fingers in a 45 degree layout. The second I put the pin above the fingers in a stronger position, 4" from my PAP.

I found both of the Horizons to be not quite as strong on the back ends as the RS-X. Although the Horizon is a low rg, high flare ball, I think the RS-X is a better choice for heavier oil conditions. The Horizon should play better on medium oil patterns.


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Re: Horizon
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2006, 11:25:44 PM »
The dawn ball as I like to call it this ball seems to pick up speed on the backend and flat out rolls. The carry is impressive and the recovery is alright, its really not made to recover but you can get it to do so. This is  my first RG ball and I must say that I like it. The reaction is more of an arc and I can play deep inside with it and also a little bit outside. All in all the dawn ball is a good ball to go with.

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2006, 04:08:50 PM »

-Horizon-

Drilled pin over and right of ring, CG stacked, long pin, weight hole near PAP (5" over, 1" up), surface at 1000+polish

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Surprisingly strong in the midlane for a pearl (albeit a stronger pearl), this ball reminds me VERY much of my Silver Streak Pearl (which I had to get rid of because I dropped to 15#, would LOVE to find another one in 15#...) in that it's not very squirty for a pearl but still gets good length.  I believe this is a result of my layout and the base grit of the ball before the polish.  Regardless, this ball still gets better length than my high pin 4000 grit Black Widow, a little less midlane, and a little stronger in the backend.  This ball can't be categorized as a skid/flip, it's definitely more skid/HARD roll, which is an OUTSTANDING reaction to have on the appropriate conditions.

The best comparison I can offer for this is that it's a poor man's Inferno, the numbers are different and the cover is different and the core is different, etc., but reaction wise and versatility wise, the closest I can compare this to is the original Inferno.  

I've also found that this ball just absolutely kills a drier house shot, the layout and surface prep are perfect for the drier backends, and the pearl cover helps the ball scoot through the mostly fried heads.  Also, shorter oil is another pattern that this ball absolutely kills on, it's a strong, yet VERY controllable reaction on most conditions short of medium-heavy oil.
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Re: Horizon
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2006, 11:24:24 PM »
I drilled the pearl Horizon much different than the solid version.  On the pearl, I went with a 5 1/2" pin to PAP 1" above the ring finger and a flare increasing hole 2" past my PAP.  I love this drill for getting through spotty heads but still giving strong recovery down the lane.  This ball is awesome on broken down league conditions and shots that force you away from the track.  The low R.G. of the Horizon gets the ball revving early but not hooking early, which is great for getting a true read of the lane without hooking at the slightest spot of friction.  The Horizon however is very strong in the backend.  Down the lane is where this ball shows its true strength and is very reminiscent of the original "Fire" ball with that big yellow "B" on it.  This is one pearl that handles transitions really well.  The only time this ball will give the user trouble is when the pattern is just too long.  It will still read well in bigger volumes of oil, but the finishing power will not be the same.  Mediums and later blocks will have this ball shining.

Lower rev players will love the angle off the spot from this ball.  The Tweeners will love having a pearl that doesn't sail through the breakpoint when thrown a bit harder.  Power players will love getting inside of everyone with this ball and having a devastating backend without squirtiness from inside.

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2006, 03:06:10 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 3 oz, 2.90 top weight, 3.5 inch pin.

This great looking pearl ball was drilled 5.5” X 55 degrees with the pin one half inch above the finger bridge and the non-marked mass bias one and one half inches right of the thumb hole.  An extra hole was not needed.  The cover was left in OOB condition.

The Horizon is very clean thru the heads (even though it revs quickly off the hand) picks up smoothly in the mids and exhibits a strong arc with continuation on the back end.  Hit and carry are very good.  A great goto piece when solids and more aggressive balls are going early or inconsistently and/or not making it around the corner.

Compared to the RS-1 (the ball it replaced in the mid performance line), the Horizon does not squirt, reads the mids a little sooner and is not as angular on the back end.  With the Horizon, you’re getting a high performance ball for a mid performance price.

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2007, 07:44:13 PM »
Speed: 16-17 MPH
Revs: 350+
Axis tilt: 20-25 Deg
Axis rotation: Approx. 30 deg
Desription:
Weight (Pre-drill)  15 and change
Top weight (Pre-drill)
Pin to CG distance  5”
Surface prep  1000Grit Polished
Drilling
Pin to PAP distance 5.5” Pin to grip center distance  4.5”
CG to PAP distance 4.75” CG to grip center distance .5” left(negative side) on center line
Balance hole location, size, and depth. No weight hole

Condition used was PBA Regional Pattern 3(38Ft) and THS(38Ft)
Pattern # 3 Lane condition was Guardian with wood backends.
On this pattern the ball gave a great read and had a nice angular motion when reaching the dry part of the lane. As the heads broke down and the oil carried down the ball started up a little earlier but kept the same overall hook. I was able to play a more direct line throughout the day and be almost unaffected by the oil transition.
THS is Wood lanes and AMF synthetic both conditions are med oil for our areas THS
On wood this ball gives a strong angular backend with consistent read.                              Synthetics with a little more oil seemed to caused this ball to have a stronger reaction than on wood the ball had a similar reaction on the synthetic lane but working a deeper line by approx. 5 boards.

Line being played
Pattern #3 10/ 8 @ 42-44ft on fresh                                                                               THS 15/5 @ 40 ft on fresh

Overall Thoughts
This ball is great for use on med to short oil pattern and has great readability and control. Ball has great traction and carry. I have tried a few different surfaces and it has been responsive to the changes. This is the best and most versatile ROTO ball that I have drilled so far and would be a good starting point for a bowler building an arsenal. Can’t wait to see what the soild version does.
I can’t really compare to other equipment as I just re-built my arsenal and have never thrown anything with a layout like this before.


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Re: Horizon
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2007, 12:11:18 AM »
drill a little funny bought ball had 5 3/4 pin to cg
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well wow nice may sound strange but ball in smooth of the spot but has a angular move very clean threw the front very impressed with ball kills on med oil patterns
i have a fare amount of hand but not a lot of tilt and was worried the ball would have to much length but I was wrong ball just motors had the ball two weeks and been asked 3 times what are you throwing that ball rolls great had someone buy one ofter seeing me throw it ball its just good a must have on med going to order a mystic next week (hopefully) can't wait to get that jem to go with this one

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2007, 06:31:38 PM »
At a roto grip demo day o was told to get the horizon solid because i needed something with surface. At the time i went to a tournament for my college and i liked the ball it was good for the first game but then it would either hook to much or just roll out. So i bought the horizon and i love the ball. It's by far my favorite ball in my arsenal. And for the price of it you can't go wrong. I like it for the medium to short lane conditions. By far the best and favorite ball i have ever owned.

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Re: Horizon
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 05:31:31 PM »
Weight: 15
Pin to CG: 1 1/4"
surface is OOB 1500 polished

I'm updating this review, as I've switched this piece to being first out of my bag.

Ball is drilled 4" pin to PAP, under ring finger. CG 4" (stacked). No weight hole.

I'm a medium revs and ball speed stroker.

I wanted an angular, pearl piece for medium oil. The ball came with a short pin, which was unexpected. I had it drilled for med-high flare, good midlane read, and a sharp breakpoint.

On a fresh THS I back off the axis rotation and send it down the 10 board and it revs quickly, picks up a good roll in the late midlane and drives through the hole. Fantastic carry.
As the oil transitions I move left and stand over the 20, increase my axis rotation and send it between the 2nd and 3rd arrows. The ball flips pretty hard at the break and its usually a solid hit. Off pocket hits have great carry as well. On good hits I sometimes see solid 10's, but almost never 7's.
This ball handles dry heads decently, being pearl/polished, but with the layout I have it still makes the ball finish a bit weaker.  Carrydown is worse, this ball needs at least some dry in the back to make a good move.

I love the mid-lane this ball has despite being pearl. Very predictable for an angular reaction. On medium conditions I can throw just this one ball all night and with release changes I can get this ball to do anything except for the huge coast-to-coast swing shots. Great for spares, too.

A solid piece from Roto Grip. I would recommend this ball to just about everybody. My Horizon is quickly becoming my favourite ball.
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Re: Horizon
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2008, 04:48:48 PM »
I got this ball after my success with the Silver Streak SE and it only took a few weeks for me to find out what a great ball the Horizon is.  During league play I shot a 300 game and 790 series with the Horizon and it was only a few weeks old.  The predictability with the Horizon is the biggest positive for me; I know what I'm going to get and where the ball is going to go.  I havn't had as much success with the Horizon on tougher lane conditions, but for any house shot this ball is a must have.  I also like the carry that I'm able to generate with this ball because of the amount of energy it stores up for the last 20 feet.  When it makes that turn for the pocket the pins really don't stand a chance.
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