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Nomad
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
- Coverstock: Ultra Vision Solid Reactive
- Weight Block: Rotary Core
- Ball Color: Neon Green / Black
- Ball Finish: 1500 Polished
- Flare Potential: 5+ inches (Med-High)
- RG: 16#-2.52, 15#-2.55, 14#-2.57, 13#-2.66, 12#-2.66
- RG Differential: 16#-0.049, 15#-0.054, 14#-0.046, 13#-0.037, 12#-0.037
- Description: The Nomad solid features the performance proven Rotary core found in the highly successful Silver Streak Line of bowling balls. This mid-rg and higher differential weight block was one of the best sellers ever from Roto Grip. The unique shape combined with the best coverstock technology of the time was elemental to that success. Fast forward to 2009, we have taken this performance proven core and added a new coverstock to these balls. The Ultra Vision coverstock is bred from the original Sure Grip coverstock, but with friction enhancing additives that have given us great success with some of our other coverstock blends like the original Cytoplasmic, Cytoplasmic X, and the recent Cytoplasmic XL. This combination of enhanced friction and performance proven core technology is sure to please. This will be the most highly sought after weapon of choice.

 

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2009, 10:46:03 AM »
I decided when I drilled the Nomad I was going to try something a bit different.  Having already drilled the Nomad Pearl and being surprised at how strong the backend was I wanted to drill the Nomad to hook less and give me something I could use on wet/dry or lanes that just plain hooked. I already had a Mars with the pin right on my axis to take the flare right out of the ball and it works great on wet/dry lanes but lacks the backend on drier lanes with a bit of carry down.  

A few years ago I had drilled a high end ball from another manufacturer with the pin 6" from my axis and ended up with a really good spare ball, as the ball never would get into a roll unless I was using it on a gymnasium floor.  After seeing how strong the backend was on the pearl I decided what the heck, so I drill the Nomad with the pin 6" from my axis which put it at about 2" left of the center of my grip and 2" above the grip center.  I placed the CG right on my grip center.

When I was done the ball looked like it was drilled for the typical lefthander.
I really didn't know what to expect after my last disastrous attempt at this layout.  When I first rolled the ball it loped for about 35 - 40 ft, but to my surprise once the ball hit dry boards you could see the core shift and the ball got into a really nice strong roll and killed the pocket.

After rolling both balls on a house shot I found all I had to do with the 6" Nomad was move my feet 10 boards right and my target 5 right on the same condition. The ball reads the lane really well, getting into a nice strong roll with very little deflection.  While I wouldn't recommend this layout for everyone it just demonstrates the versatility of the Nomad. It works great on drier lanes and shorter patterns.  I can't wait to try it on the Cheetah.

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2009, 11:18:12 AM »
Drill angle – 35 Deg., Angle to VAL – 35 Deg., PIN to PAP distance – 3 3/8”, 15 lb, box finish

The person who said this ball is like the Silver Streak on steroids is right on.  Same core, stronger cover stock, what more can you ask for.  This ball is incredible.  With the cover, it had no problems getting through the heads, reads the mid-lane great, and hits very hard going through the pins.  This ball is more than what I thought it was going to be.  I really liked my Silver Streak, but this ball, WOW!!  I am looking forward to my tournament schedule to start.  

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2009, 12:00:29 AM »
The new Mid-Range & Priced Nomads should be a big hit with all levels of bowlers this season. The Solid Reactive with the Rotary Core I found not  just  a Med-Heavy oil ball, but is very smooth on league house shots as well.  As a 72 yr. Old LH Stroker I had the Solid drilled with the 3-1/2 inch pin just below the ring finger & the CG kicked out 1-1/2 inches. Staying behind the ball on the house shot & at 15 mph, the ball had a very smooth re-action between  15 & 7 boards. My 1st league score with this ball was 269-747 with 2 open splits. All my Nomad scores have been out of the box..Action speaks louder than words...{Ball Layout Photo on the Roto-Grip Web Reviews}...Larry Hoffman, Roto-Grip Advisory Staff

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2009, 12:49:54 AM »
Here's my review: I have mine drilled 30deg x 33/8" x 40deg with the pin above and right of my ring finger. This is the same layout as my Nomad Pearl as I wanted to see how they react with the same drilling. The Solid is earlier reading and is strong off the break point, but isn't as angular as the pearl. The Solid will handle a little more volume of oil and is a great ball to use when my Rogue is a little to strong. I can use my pin down Rogue Cell first and if it's to much, I go to my pin up Rogue and then the Nomad is the ball when the shot starts to open. If the volume is more medium to medium heavy I usually start with the Nomad Solid and when the 10 pin starts to show up I switch to the Pearl and don't miss a beat. This ball and the Pearl are a great 1 - 2 punch and you don't have to mortgage your home to add them to your arsenal!
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2009, 12:57:06 AM »
I just drilled a new Nomad Solid and I wanted a different look so I went with a 75deg x 47/8" x 80deg, which places the pin above my middle finger and the cg left of grip centerline. If you look at the ball it looks like it's drilled for a left handed bowler. My first test of this ball was last night in league and I shoot 258, 257 and the corners pins start to show and I made the switch to my Nomad Pearl to end with a 747 series. I had a great look all night with both and I had one split the second game, which was my only open for the night. It just shows what a great line Roto Grip has with the Nomad and the rotary core, so pick one up today and you won't regret it!!
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2009, 09:39:52 PM »
I drilled my first Nomad Solid with the pin 4 inches from the PAP at 45 degrees.  The ball rolls really even, not too strong off the dry or too long in the oil.  What is really impressive is how good the ball hits.  

After struggling to carry in a four game summer league that saw me only averaging 210 after the first half, I drilled the Nomad and shot 980+ for the last three weeks of the league (only 890 the previous week).  I was second high in the league each week and did pretty good in the side pots against some of the better bowlers in the Houston area.

I drilled a second Nomad Solid with a similar layout but dulled the surface to give me a different look on a tighter condition or a more severe wet / dry shot.  In a SASBA (Senior) tournament over the Labor Day weekend in Lafayette, the ball reacted great, carried better than ever expected and my partner and I won the tournament.  I was high qualifier, out-averaging even the kids (guys under 50).

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2009, 01:29:47 PM »
1) Rotogrip Nomad Solid

2) Ball Specifications

    a) Gross Weight: 16#
    b) Top Weight: 2.?? oz.
    c) Pin Placement: 3.5"
    d) Coverstock: Ultra Vision Solid Reactive
    e) Core: Symmetrical (Rotary core from the Sliver Streak series)

3) Drill Layout/Pattern: label leverage

    a) Pin to PAP distance: 4", Pin is 2 1/4" from the VAL.
    b) CG to PAP distance: 4 5/8" with the CG 1" from grip centerline on the midline.
    c) Extra Hole Placement (NONE)
    d) Mass Bias Placement (NONE)

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/aloarjr810/bowlingballs/roto_nomad_sol.jpg

4) Surface Preparation

    a) Surface Type: OOB 1500 polished
    b) Surface Type: 800 grit wet sand finished with 4000 abralon.

5) Bowler Specifications

    a) Right handed
    b) Stroker
    c) Ball Speed (estimated) 18mph
    d) Rev rate (estimated): Medium rev’s
    e) Positive Axis Point (PAP):5 7/8"> 5/8"^
    f) About 13 degree axis tilt

6) Lanes

    a) Type of lanes (synthetic) Brunswick Pro Anvil
    b) Oil pattern Information (Typical House Shot “THS”)

7) Ball Reaction Characteristics

    a) The ball is very clean through the heads, getting good length.
    b) The mid-lane read was good
    c) The ball made a nice move off the oil, and had a nice even reaction on the backend.
    d) The ball retained energy well, The backend was a strong angular one, with good continuation to        and through the pin's.

8) Miscellaneous Information

    a) Used in two leagues (Mixed (4players), All men(5players) and open play.

9)Summary
I've used this ball for several weeks now, I could easily parrot other reviews. But I'll just focus on a couple of thing's that I was looking at Hold & Recovery, Lane read and pin carry.

 The ball's recovery was amazing, throw the ball outside and it came back. Almost a problem for me, trusting the ball enough to send it to the outside. In the out of box condition, it would go just a little long on the mixed league (because it has a oilier condition, because theres a second league following it.). Hold was good on this shot, but with carrydown hit was problematic.

 On the drier men's league recovery was almost spooky, it would come back from just about anywhere. Back as the lanes broke down it was just to much, the ball still reacted well and I didn't see it rolling out. But I couldn't get it down the lane. Hold was good at the beginning of the night, but as the oil goes so should the ball go to the bag.

Where the ball shined for me, was when I changed the surface to a 800 grit wet sand and finished it with 4000 abralon and used on the mixed league. This surface change evened the reaction and improved the lane read, but still retained most all of the recovery and hold reaction was more predictable.

The other thing I was watching was pin carry, I wanted to see if the ball having a thick coverstock changed how the pins reacted when hit.

The thinner coverstock balls I think have a little “give” when they hit, with the pins just bouncing off them. Which can cause them to fly around in the air more, which can lead to a lot of ringing leaves.

The Nomad gave the pins a better look when it hit. The pins stayed low and spinning, you could even hear a difference in the sound of the hit. It gave a feeling that more energy was being imparted to the pins.

I want to see now how the ball holds up over the long run. With the thinner covers cracking so much more lately, I want to see if these thicker one hold up more like the old time balls.

This is a good strong ball and I recommend it, but remember it's skid/flip type ball. So make sure that it will fit your game.
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2009, 05:45:46 PM »
Nomad Solid

Layout – Pin 1” below bridge, BH 7/8 bit x 2” deep  4 ½ right, 1 ¼ down

Surface: OOB

Review:

This ball impressed me a lot.  I was definitely surprised how easy it got through the heads.  It’s very responsive to the dry, but not too much.  Very readable reaction off its break point and it carries amazing. It also handles carry down very well.  

This is a great ball for your typical house shot, and your average joe bowler.  The cover is very forgiving and very versatile.  If you want more length out of it, the polish doesn’t take away from its strength.  

If you're a scratch player, trust me, you will find this ball very fun to throw!
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2009, 10:17:55 PM »
I have my Nomad solid drilled with the pin to the right of the ring finger with a 5 x 4 layout. This ball is great out of the box for medium oil. The 1500 polished finish is perfect for a typical house shot.  I also find it effective as the lanes start to dry in the track area.

The ball is clean through the heads and responds nicely when touching the dry.
The break to the pocket is nice and controlled. The Nomad read the mid-lanes and picks up a nice roll, not a snappy reaction and it also has a great drive through the pins.

This is a perfect ball for medium oil.

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2009, 09:37:44 PM »
This is an awesome ball. The Solid Nomad continues to perform time and time again.
Last night I bowled at chop's in omaha nebraska. I had one practice ball before competition started.
I threw a Nomad with 5x3, pin above and a hole on the side. I threw the ball across the 3rd arrow and out to 7. By the end of the night I was across the 18th board to about the 8 board.

My first game was a 258 and a three way tie for high game. In the money.
The second game shaped up just like the last only a pin shy, 257. Still clean.
The last game I started off with the front six and left a ten pin. The 8th frame was a strike. Then the 9th was a 9 pin. Still clean. Then the tenth came up and I left a ten pin, which I needed to pick up to win a four way tie for clean game. I double kissed it for the split of the clean 30 pot. $$
248 would be my last game for a 763.I cashed for the high series of the night.

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2009, 03:24:38 PM »
I drilled my solid with the pin under the ring finger the cg on my midline and a weighthole near the thumbhole (5X3 and 1/2).
This is quite a weapon for my arsenal. This is one step up from the Nomad Pearl, much more angular than the Cell, closer to my Saga, without the jerk.
I loved the Silver Streaks, original and particle, the Nomad is the Silver Streak of this era.
I was curious to see what the ball would do sanded so I took it up to 2000 abralon and it gave it a tamer and smoother reaction but i preferred the 1500 polished finish which gave me more pop and snap.
This is a must for the tournament bowler, a definite advantage on medium to slightly heavy conditions.
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2009, 04:21:42 PM »
I drilled two Nomads , the first one I drilled 5 X 5 and I really like the way this one rolls it once again gets through the heads easily and it really arcs to the pocket, this is a verty controlable ball for me. The second one I drilled was 6 1/2 X 5 I wanted a little more length with a little more control and its what i got and these nomads like all the other Roto Grip balls i have the hit and carry are unbelievable.
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2009, 08:06:49 PM »
I was a big fan of the Silver Streak line so I was really excited when I heard that the Nomad was going to have the same core as the Silver Streak.  I had a lot of expectations before I even threw this ball and when I finally did, I knew the wait was worth it.  The Nomad Solid is by far one of the best bowling balls of 2009.  

I was fortunate enough to bowl in the World Series of Bowling in Detroit during the month of August and I can tell you from first hand experience, this is the most popular ball on tour right now.  Everyone who is associated with Storm and Roto Grip were drilling Nomads out like crazy, as well as bowlers who are free agents.  I made matchplay in the Chameleon Championship and got beat by Jeff Carter who was throwing a Nomad he had just drilled that morning.  The point I'm trying to make is that if the best bowlers in the world utilize this ball so much, there must be something to it.

What I like so much about the Nomad Solid is its ability to get through the heads but at the same time be a complete monster in the backends.  Plus, this ball just hits like a truck.  The carry is just amazing.  If you are looking for a ball to use on house shots or medium length (39-41 feet) PBA/Sport patterns then the Nomad is what you need to get.
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Re: Nomad
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2009, 01:56:37 PM »
The Nomad solid was on a typical house shot 36' in length and buffed to 39' freshly oiled Brunswick synthetic lane surface.  I drilled my Nomad solid with the pin in the ring finger and CG 3/4" off of my grip line.  I started out playing the lanes straight with an up the back of the ball release, using 7th board as my breakpoint.  The ball floated through the fronts and read the midlane with a continuous backend reaction.  It threw pins everywhere.  I threw several shots like this.  Then I moved everything left 10 with my feet and kept using the same breakpoint and went around it more.   The ball really floated through the fronts with the awesome midlane read and continuous backend motion.  This ball for me would be a great benchmark ball.  I then took it out to use on the Route 66 oil pattern.  With the box finish and the volume of oil, it squirted too far and read the midlane too late.  So I took a 2000 grit abralon pad and that made all the difference.  The ball made Route 66 look like a house shot.  This ball is a must for anyone bowling tournaments.  Kudos to Hank and all of the staff at Roto Grip.

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Re: Nomad
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2009, 02:35:08 PM »
I have my Nomad Solid drilled with the pin through the ring finger and the cg in the middle of my palm. This ball really gets through the front of the lane very clean picking up a roll in the mid-lane and finishes strong down the lane. The Nomad solid is a smoother rolling ball than the Nomad Pearl. The Nomad Solid is a great ball really giving a consistent reaction every shot. I think everyone should have a Nomad Solid in their bag or you just might leave more 10 pins than someone else who does have one.

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