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Oracle Vision
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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Take your furture into your own hands with the all new Oracle Vision.

We have modified the already strong asymmetrical Cyclotrontm core to give you added performance from start to finish. The all new Cyclotron Vtm core gives you a lower RG (radius of gyration) to create a quicker spin rate while keeping the differential high (.050) providing continous hook down the lane.

The crowning touch is the introduction of an all new coverstock. The Ultimate Visiontm pearl particle coverstock delivers the traction of a solid particle coverstock in the front of the lane and the backend motion of a pearlized reactive down the lane.


Specifications

Factory Finish  1000 Matte  
Radius Of Gyration  16# - 2.51
15# - 2.52
14# - 2.55  
Differential  .050 (High)  
Lane Condition  Medium - Heavy Oil  
Flare Potential  7+ Inches  
Coverstock  Ultimate Visiontm Pearl Particle  
Available Weights  14-16 Lbs.  
Weight Block  Cyclotron Vtm Coretm  
Color  Light Purple/Dark Purple  
D-Scale  73-75  


 

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 01:59:36 AM »
AWESOME!
Everything from the color of this bowling ball to the way it reads the lane is absolutely AWESOME!
I drilled my Oracle Vision just like my Apocalypse, I figured this would give me a good idea as to what this ball does since it is a modified version of the Apocalypse core. Pin 5 1/2 above the bridge Mass Bias Strong 1 inch from thumb. The Oracle Vision comes machine sanded out of the box which is a very fine, smooth surface texture.
I left it out of the box and could not move far enough left, it really read the lane early. What I liked though is that it read early and didn't just hook stop, it continued hooking without rolling out and still crushed the pins even if it was brooklyn. I polished the ball with Storm Diamond Gloss and managed to hit the head pin square in the face. I was afraid that if I got too deep the particles wouldn't allow the ball to get around the corner. Boy was I wrong! The deeper I got and the more I sent the ball the more it screamed back and blew the rack.
The Oracle Vision is great on heavy to medium conditions out of the box and can be used on a wide range of medium conditions when polished. This is the ball that stays in your hand all night long because it is actually fun to throw, hits the pins harder than anything you own and reads a wider range of lanes than anything you've ever owned before.

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 01:31:27 PM »
Drilled this one 5 x 4 1/2 pin on grip line above fingers with a hole on axis.  This ball was very strong on house pattern----like Bugsy said I could get as far left as I wanted with no worries of the ball making the corner.  I'm anxious to try it out on pattern A & B.  This one gets into a heavy, stable roll real quick but doesn't lose anything through the pin deck.  I would recommend this to anyone looking for a good medium to oily pattern ball.

Corey Atkinson
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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 02:48:54 AM »
Saw PBA Senior Tour staffer Gene Vincent throw this over the weekend on a tournament house shot - don't know how he had it drilled but saw early roll, nice arc shape, smooth continuous backend motion. I have an RS-1 and a Silver Streak and am adding this to my arsenal - including the new Roto Grip spare ball with the tire, very cool.

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2005, 02:39:05 PM »
WOW, this ball is incredible.  Drilled two, one polished 5 1/2 x 4 1/2 with pin just below bridge and second one box condition 5x5 pin above ring finger.  Used the polished ball on a late shift league, move left and watch this ball fly.  Clean through the fronts, read the mids a bit sooner than RS-1 and still had a awesome move to the pocket devastating the pins.  At least 5 boards more than RS-1.  The box surface used on fresh conditions.  Ball still clean through the fronts and read the mids a bit sooner, but still had a powerful move to the pocket.  One of the most versatile particle pearls I have ever seen.

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2005, 09:28:16 PM »
This is my first review.
love this ball! 15 lbs 3.0" pin 3.40 oz top weight, Mass Bias is in the (b) position on reaction drill chart in the box. 5" pin from PAP.  It really opens the lane for me. Reads the midlane very good, holding a good line. With a good Snap on the backends. I could play as deep as I wanted too, with no worry of it not coming back hard. On a 5 man house shot 38 feet. My games were 247-226-256 for a 729 series. The best thing of all was, NO 10 PINS!!!!

Well done Roto-Grip!

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2005, 05:09:38 PM »
This ball is amazing.The Orcale Vision is sweet.This ball reads front very smoooth and the mid-lane so clean and the backends strong.When it gets to the backend it never lays off,like most particle balls do.My Orcale Vision that i drilled 4 x 4 drill . It very smooth all way around .It great for medium to heavy oil.The first nine games 2163 scratch 723 717 723 .It hits very hard with lots of pin action.I bowled with mine  straight out of the box.The 3 1/2 pin with 3 oz of top wt.
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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 09:21:20 PM »
Roto Grip does it again, adds one great ball to the line.  Drilled two of these balls up with one to play outside and the other to arc.  Found that both drillings read the front with a very smooth reaction, gets threw the mid lanes really clean, and great strong backends all the way threw the pins.  Wonderful ball for med-high oil.  Haven't done anything to the surface so far as they both worked so great out of the box.  League bowling stays in my hand all night as the lanes breakdown as it really reads the lanes great.  One stacked with the pin just above the fingers, the other with the pin just below the fingers and the CG Kicked out towards PAP.  Used on the PBA A pattern outside with good sucess.



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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005, 10:42:10 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 3 oz, 3.40 top weight, 3 inch pin.

Drilled this very attractive, pearl particle ball 5” X 75 degrees, pin above ring finger and mass bias just below thumbhole.  Also added some polish to the factory 1000 matte finish.

This Oracle Vision is very clean through the fronts, has an even mid lane read and a strong, somewhat angular pop with continuation on the back end.  This ball is more angular than my other particle experiences probably due to the ball design, stronger cover stock, and the addition of the polish.

Another well thought out addition to the versatile Roto-Grip ball line up

John Brodersen

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2005, 10:50:33 PM »
I have not had a ball that from the first toss continued to impress...UNTIL NOW!!!!

I drilled the ball 5 1/2" pin x  MB strong. A little tamer than my usual test drill.  After throwing the ball I am salivating over drilling another one more aggressive (not that I will have a place to use it). This is the first ball I have ever used that could transition from Sport to House shot with no cover adjustment necessary.

Midlane motion is very consistent.  Strong and readable...very easy to adjust with.

Very easy to read. Pearl cover is dark enough that it will not confuse those who have trouble reading pearls. The strong core matches very well with the aggressive coverstock. This ball can build confidence.

House Conditions - Strong motion through the midlane.  Devastating continuation through the pins.  Pin action was outrageous. (Airborne messenger left me breathless) Light hits threw MULTIPLE messengers!!!  It did not matter where I was standing.  I could get the ball to return for everywhere on the House wall.

Sport Patterns - I used the Vision on a very dense 35ft pattern.  My first thought is that the ball would be way way too strong (uncontrollable) for the amount of launch/skid and backend this pattern would offer. I was very wrong.  I moved out to 5 and the ball instead of exploding off of the pattern gave me a strong but easy read. A testament to the versatility of this ball.

I saw Dan Smith of Roto Grip throw the ball on a 50ft Sport Pattern.  He was the only one who could get the ball to change direction.

This ball is significantly better than any other Particle ball on the market! This ball is significantly better than most strong reactive pieces!

I am very sold on this ball.

I drilled one for a customer whose only complaint was that he no longer had to baby the Vision like he had his previous equipment. he said the pin carry scared him at first.  He wasn't used to tossing pins around.

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005, 11:01:00 PM »
I recently received my Oracle Vision and WOW!!!!!

   Straight out of the box I drilled my  ball 4 1/2 by 4 and amazing things started to happen.  The waters parted and the earth shook 279-255-279-813.
  This ball was great on the house league pattern smooth through the front  started to read the middle of the lane for smooth transition and bang backends that were great for carry.  

   On a sports pattern tournament 40 ft flat little thick.  the ball was supper smooth though the fronts and held energy that was pure power to me.  
   won the tournament avg. 245 and made'em look easy.  

   This ball is a must have for any arsenal.


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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005, 11:45:20 PM »
I drilled one of these that had a 3"-4" pin and 3.0 TW to start. The layout I used in this ball was a small shift (1 1/2") with the MB in a strong position. The extra hole was placed 1" inside my PAP.

This ball is like a Pure Fuel on steroids. Very hard to tell this ball is a pearl particle. This layout works great from the deep inside angle.

Good on PBA patterns B & C. For Pattern A and D, you would probably need a weaker layout if your a bowler with alot of hand.
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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2005, 11:59:12 AM »
I’ve drilled two of these monsters in the past few weeks and each has easily exceeded my expectations.

Ball #1 is a 5-1/2” PAP, MB strong box finish that reads and rolls very hard, even with a big puddle in the middle of the lane.  Hit the dirt too quick, it does its quick flip, lays down and rolls hard into the hole.  Ball #2 is a 5-1/4” PAP “stack” with the MB just to the right of the thumb, no hole (very low top to start).  This one has a little Diamond Gloss finish over the box surface that keeps me straighter through the front of the lane.  This ball stores plenty of energy and makes a huge flip off the breakpoint – almost automatic recovery from everywhere I’ve tried to throw it.

This new cover stock gives you the best of all worlds.  A little scuff and it reads nice and early and continuous.  Shine it a little and you get the extra push you’ve come to expect from the “other” covers, but with the continuation you haven’t seen in the past.  Nice match-up on the core/cover combo Roto Grip!!  I can’t wait to see what else is around the corner with this cover on it.

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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2005, 01:44:32 PM »
ABC NATIONALS SECRET WEAPON

Roto Grip has introduced the next major breakthrough in coverstocks.  
As advertised the Oracle Vision does exactly what it was built for. It's strong footprint completely CONTROLS the front part of the lanes. You noticed I emphasized controls.  The ball moves easily though the heads without squirting while staying in control.  It's at this time when the ball defies logic. Whenever you have this much control over the front part of the lane you could pretty much guarantee either a loss of power or a mellow arcing return.  However once this ball reaches the break it's as strong as any pearl reactive on the market!  

If your planning on buying a ball prior to ABC Nationals, look no further.  This will be your secret weapon.  Use it straight out of the box for team,  add
a little shine for singles and doubles.  

Keep the Vision handy.  This will be a mainstay going forward and probably your favorite out of the bag.  I would add more but I rather go use it!

Thank you Roto Grip!




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Re: Oracle Vision
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2005, 09:07:48 AM »
15 lb. with pin above the bridge, and CG kicked out just a little bit.  I put a very high polish on it.  It almost makes it look like a pearlized ball.

Incredible ball.  It reads the whole lane better than any other ball I have thrown.  Roto Grip has definitely gone a step above the rest with this one.  I didn't think you could have a ball with a strong midlane, with an even stronger backend reaction.  This ball just doesn't quit.  It keeps hooking right through the pins, although I have left a few more 9 pins than normal.  10 pins have been almost non existent with this gem.  

Another thumbs up for Roto Grip on this one.  I can't wait for the next one.

Mr. Scary

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