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Rogue Cell
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
- Coverstock: Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive
- Color: Sky Blue / Purple / Royal Pearl Blue All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Weight Block: Nucleus Core in 14 – 16lbs Modified Nucleus™ Core in 12, 13lbs.
- Factory Finish: 4000 Abralon
- Track Flare Potential: 7"+ (High)
- RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
- RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
- Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavey Oil
- Description: A new generation within the kingdom has materialized and looks to seek total domination. The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic coverstock series. The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive coverstock features a unique blend of additives creating the highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip. The blend of solid and pearl coverstock generates the strongest and most consistent hook from release to impact. The energy from within comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core. This unique asymmetrical core powered the original Cell to "Ball of the Year" in 2008. Mutated from the original, the Rogue Cell is set to challenge for superiority in the bowling kingdom.

 

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2009, 04:51:39 PM »
Style: Cranker (crowbar)
Revrate: 475 - 500 RPM

The Layout:

4 1/2 x 3 1/2 (Pin above ring finger with the MB two 1.5 inches out from thumb). There is a 3/4 inch balance hole, 2 inches deep, on the axis.

The Motion:

This ball is very smooth. It reads the transition in wet dry very evenly. With the pin being a little higher, it gets through the heads and goes a little further before the initial reaction starts up. Going through the pin deck it really makes the pins dance around. Lighter pocket hits seem to be the best for the Rogue because of its overall continuation.

The reaction was a little too strong up front with the box finish on a THS, so a coat of Factory Finish polish was applied. This made the ball glide through the heads even further. It still grabbed sooner and was not as sharp off the break as the Cell Pearl, with a similar layout. This ball starts its move a few feet sooner than the pearl, and has a smoother overall motion. The combination of the Pearl and Solid coverstock really puts a perfect fit to compliment the Cell and Cell pearl.

An update to the review will follow with more in depth analysis of ball reaction and motion on PBA/Sport patterns.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2009, 05:27:38 PM »
I have drilled up all 3 pieces in this line and use them regularly. I have my Rogue drilled strong, 4 x 4 with pin over and to the right with the msss bias set to strong position. There is NOTHING in between about this ball. BY FAR this is the strongest piece in this line.

Although the original Cell might pick up the lane a bit earlier, the Rogue is much the stronger on the lanes the last 10 feet. It is a versatile piece in that it gets some length but the hitting power of this monster is something to see. It carry's light hits, pocket hits and high flush with equal effectiveness. I find myself putting it away for most THS shots simply because of the horsepower. The Pearl or the original Cell handle medium oil a bit easier. This ball however has a place in everyones bag. This ball is NOT in between the Cell and Cell Pearl. This ball is stronger by far.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2009, 08:34:46 PM »
and i have all three and use them regularly...all drilled similar use on a variety of conditions and in my eyes the rogue is BETWEEN the cell and cell pearl...when my pearl is getting to much length i can pick up the rogue...if i need earlier hook i can pick up my cell...again the rogue may cover more boards than the cell on a THS but it doesnt pick up as fast as the cell on longer heavier conditions thus putting it between the cell and cell pearl....it is a great piece and if you need a ball that will pick up earlier than the CP and not as early as the cell then the rogue is for you

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2009, 11:50:37 AM »
I thought that the original Cell was strong enough but, wow! This thing is an animal. I put the pin beside the ring finger with the CG and MB stacked under the pin. I initially tried to use it in league on a typical house shot. No chance. It checked at my ankles and burned up almost instantly. My next move was to smooth the surface with a 4000 abralon pad. This helped but, still too strong. Before, I go any further I must say that I lay out my equipment for flatter and more tournament oriented patterns so I figured this ball wouldn't roll too well in league. I didn't drill it for that. I then took the same 4000 Abralon surface and made it glow. This helped. I could now move in and play as long as I fed this ball oil up front it was fine. The hitting power was incredible. I did manage to use the Rogue at the BTM in Vegas and on the fresh it was fine on that but once the head oil broke down I pulled out my Cell Pearl. Overall, if you are looking for a hard hitting ball for the Shark pattern and those alike this could be the ball for you.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2009, 03:34:29 PM »
15lb.
Pin at 1:00
CG Under
MB near VAL

This ball is amazing.  The mid lane roll on this ball is awesome.  It clears the heads very easy, reads the mid-lane and moves in the back.  It truly is a hybrid.  The biggest strength of this ball is how it reads the mid-lane and how it moves in the back.  With these strengths, it's very predictable and gives you some room for error (depends on the lanes).  Another strength with this ball is the ability to play in heavier volumes of oil to lighter volumes of oil - All due to the hybrid coverstock.  

I've played straight up with this ball and it has a sick move to the pocket.  I stood on 38 and tossed it to 15 and break at 5 and this ball still a lot of energy to shred the rack in pieces.  I didn't experience any over/under with this ball.  The ball is friendly to hand and speed adjustments.  The Hybrid Coverstocks is the future.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2009, 05:47:01 AM »
Typical Conditions: Used on many different conditions
Likes: Ball is diverse and can be thrown on anything, hits harder than anything out there
Dislikes: none what so ever

for the record, ive thrown alot of stuff out there, including the regular cell, this has to be one of the best combination of coverstocks and weight blocks out there, they seem to just be made for each other, the hybird coverstock works great with the Nucleus core, this ball can play any part of the lane on virtually any condition, have heavy oil, take the surface down and watch it destroy the shot, got dry lanes, shine this ball up and watch it move on the back end and be able to play medium shots with it, this ball suites bowlers of all styles and can be used anywhere, its a must have for anybody's bag, and this ball hits harder than anything out there, i almost left a pocket 7-9-10 with it, it hits that hard, Roto Grip out did themselves on this one.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2009, 08:38:36 PM »
I could not wait any longer so I punched out one of these two weeks ago.  The results are somewhat astonishing!

On the advice of my pro shop guy, I had this drilled with a 10:30 layout, which seemed a little more dramatic than any layout I have used before.  I am pretty much a stroker/tweener and I prefer to play up and in.  My idea was to get something that would be useable on heavy oil, and since I am migrating to 15 lb. equipment, this would be my first 15 lb. heavy oil ball.  I was kind of hedging, and so instead of going with a regular Cell, went with the Rogue, figuring it would be a little more versatile.

The first set on league nite I shot 676.  In a tournament last weekend, I averaged about 228 over 7 games, including a 290 in the first game of the tournament!  I average about 207 in league.

The ball seemed to handle the oilier pairs with ease.  You can almost see the ball grab midlane, then begin a very heavy roll to the pocket.  It was punishing through the pin deck, with most light hits driving the five pin into the seven pin with authority.  Seemed to carry everything there were very few flat or weak tens.  I would say that I did have a little trouble on drier pairs, and probably should have swiched balls, but I was able to stay in it with some more significant moves to the left.  All in all, it seems like this ball will accomplish what I want it to do.

Very pleased!  Will update review with other comments on conditions and durability.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2009, 09:17:27 PM »
My Rogue Cell is drilled with a 4 by 4 drilling with the mass bias in the strong postion. This ball really gets through the heads very clean while picking up a roll in the mid lane much like the original Cell with the back end motion of the Cell Pearl. Even on a broken down house shot I was able to move way in and the ball would still finish strong enough to carry the 10 pin. This ball has great carry from all angles of the lane. I have been able to use my Rogue on many different tournament shots and house shots and is a great ball to go to if you are using a cell and it starts to burn up and not make the corner. Overall this is a great ball and I recommend everyone to have one in their bag.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2009, 12:13:36 PM »
I drilled mine Pin up(on Centerline) with MB 1 1/2 right of thumb. It was extremely CLEAN threw the heads, as it entered the MIDS, The Rogue picked up a STRONG roll, that created an AWESOME CONTINOUS roll to the pocket.  I then added some Polish(Storm Step 3) and this ball gave me another 3-4 ft. with the SAME motion and hitting POWER.  I also had no problem getting this ball to cover boards(if needed).  
 The complete CELL line is by far the Most Versatile and COMPLETE 1-2-3 punch out today!!
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2009, 01:01:15 AM »
I drilled my Rogue dual angle (ths) tweener 40x3.5x50. It got through the heads and had a continuous backend. This ball is great hits like a semi. First time used series 702. Next league nite struggle with alittle over under shoot 680 series. Couple games practice next league nite shot 737, this ball is amazing actually made it through all three games with struggling. rpoonanny2 (baps)
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2009, 03:51:10 PM »
I drilled mine 60 x 4" x45 dual angle.  I'm currently using it on our house pba pattern league.  It hooks more than any other ball in my arsenal and is probably the best ball i could ever recommend on tougher lane conditions to anyone.  The coverstock is so versatile as well.  On the Cheetah and Viper patterns, i shine it up to get a little more length. (it shines up beautifully too)  then on the longer heavier patterns, i dull it down to 600 grit and again it works great.  The best thing about this ball is the hitting power.  Even on the longer patterns when the ball is coming in a little light in the pocket, I get more mix than any one else using any other ball.  Because i'm having so much success with it in our PBA league, every bowler that bowls on my pair gets it for the following week.  I can't wait to use it on the US Open pattern later in the season.  great work guys at Roto Grip! you've got a real winner here!

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2009, 12:17:33 AM »
My bowling stats:
PAP: 5.75” Over .25” Up
Average Speed: 18.5 MPH
RPM’s: 400+
Ball(s) Stats:
“Continuous” Rouge Cell
(Layed Out Using Roto-Grips “4x3” in their drilling chart)
Weight Hole: On PAP
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: OOB
“Trick Layout” Rouge Cell
Pin Location: 6" from PAP WAY ABOVE Ring Finger
Mass Bias Location: 45 Degrees (Above and Right of Thumb)
Weight Hole: 3.5" Over 1" Up
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Highly Polished or White Scotch Brite

Review:

Conditions I Would Consider Using The Ball On:
Heavy or Medium/Heavy Patterns
Heavy or Medium/Heavy Volumed Patterns
Clean To Slightly Carried Down Backends
Heavy Volumed House Shots

For me, the Rogue Cell is a completely different ball than any other ball that I have thrown. As an aggressive ball, it is very coverstock tunable and layout friendly. However, because of its aggressiveness it can be deceiving. With everything being equal, the Rouge Cell is the most aggressive of all the Cells, however I have found on several different patterns (besides heavy/long patterns) that either the Cell Pearl or original Cell will actually out hook the Rogue Cell based on early and undetectable energy burn. Sometimes this can be a good thing though, as it gives you more control over the break point...... Like the other Cells, this ball is very continuous, even if it runs into early burn. I cant think of one time where any of my Cells have ever flat out rolled out.

“Continuous” Rouge Cell

This is the most continuous and most hooking ball I have ever punched out. It just plain hooks. With this ball it reminds me of a urethane ball on steroids, without the super early burn (as long as you have head oil). I tried polishing it and used it on a few patterns, but it seemed to really overlap my original Cell so I returned it to OOB condition and am able to use it on longer/heavier patterns without having to worry about it skipping through the breakpoint. However, on longer patterns with medium volume I found the original Cell in OOB condition to be a better match up. Bottom line is this: If you already have an original Cell and you are looking to get a Rouge Cell, don't be afraid to drill one up similar and tweak the coverstock so they compliment each other and you wont be shut out on any condition.
“Trick Layout” Rouge Cell
Again, this is named after the Tommy Jones layout. I find this layout extremely versatile for higher rev players. Comparing this ball to the others in the Cell line, I find it to kind of a blend of the two. With the high gloss polish that I applied to it, it clears the heads like the Cell Pearl, but the cover helps smooth the reaction out close to the original Cell. On average (and depending on the condition), this ball is about 3-5 boards stronger than the original Cell and 3-5' sooner than the Cell Pearl.
My bottom line is this. This ball is strong. REALLY strong. If you are not using the right layout or using it on the right condition, it probably wont work and one of the other Cells will probably work better. BUT when the stars align and you match up with this very tunable and versatile beast  .... LOOK OUT!!

Conditions that I would not consider using these balls on:
Short Pattern
Low Volume Patterns
Beat Up Synthetic/Wood Lanes (High and early friction)

Roto-Grip Balls Up or Down:
Ball Up In Reaction: Stronger/Earlier Drilled Rouge Cell or a Late 90s/Early 2000's Particle Ball
Ball Down In Reaction: Cell or Cell Pearl

Thank you for your time in reading this review. I hope that you have found it to be helpful. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me and I will try to help you as much as I can.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2009, 04:48:01 PM »
Rogue Cell:  The Perfect Fit

The Original Cell might be the best ball I have ever owned.  Usually the more aggressive a ball is, the less forgiving it is.The Cell hooks, and it hits, but it still seems to find the pocket I when I have the occasional bad release. The nature of the ball is to be more even arcing and it does need oil to clear the heads

If there is not enough head oil or you need a ball to cover a lot of boards late then the Cell Pearl is the ball to go to.  It gets through the heads cleaner and hooks like crazy on the back end. I find the Cell Pearl a bit more condition specific and not as forgiving as the Cell. It hooks alot harder on dry boards and can squirt a bit on carry down.

That's where the Rogue Cell comes in handy.  It gets through the heads cleaner than the Cell and has a more angular motion like the Pearl, but isn't effected as much by carry down.  It has a strong back end without the over/under you can get from the Pearl.

With the Cell, the Cell Pearl and now the Rogue Cell, Roto Grip has come up with three balls that compliment each other perfectly.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2009, 03:08:32 PM »
Rogue Cell #1
I put the pin up  @ 4 ½ from my pap with the mb next to my thumb. The balance hole was placed on my val on the midline of the grip.

My intent with this Rogue was to have a ball with which I could really open up the lane. WOW does it ever! I have a Cell Solid with the same layout and It sometimes is a bit too even off of the breakpoint.  

The Rogue Cell’s cover is the strongest match for the Nucleus core yet.  The hybrid cover seems to bring out the strongest aspects of the core. You can really see the differential working as the ball goes through motion. Where other strong drilled asymmetric balls have a tendency to stand up in the backend this just keeps on driving.

Surface changes: After using the ball in box condition I took the cover down to 2000 abralon to take some of the sharpness off of the break point. It worked as expected while still keeping up the continuation through the pins. I used this ball during my 7am singles at the USBC Open shooting 636 and doubling up on my brackets. $$$

Rogue Cell #2
I wanted to try something different so I laid the ball out pin down @ 6 inches from my pap with a strong drill angle. Mb was placed between my thumb hole and my val. I placed the balance hole low on my val.

What I got was a medium strong midlane read with even continuation off of the spot and awesome carry.  I was struggling on the PBAX Earl pattern until I drilled this ball. The final three weeks of the Earl pattern I averaged over 225.

My favorite part of the Rogue Cell is the pin action.  I really enjoy watching the pins fly around the deck with reckless abandon.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2009, 11:21:55 PM »
I usually drill 2 of every ball at least. I have found that one with pin up and one with pin down gives me the edge I need when bowling on the different patterns. Wether it be house shot or tournament shot.

The first one is a 5x3 pin above fingers, my favorite drill pattern.

The second is a 4 3/4 x 4 3/4 with pin down, cg and Mb kicked out,"Rev Lev".

I'm not sure how many times I've been asked, " Are you a registered pin offender". Since purchasing this ball I can say, " YES I AM" !!!!

Pin below works great on fresh oil.

Pin above works good for when the lane is hooking to much in the front part of the lane(the heads are gone).

A Brilliant add on to the arsenal.
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