Author Topic: 1st Negative Review of CELL PEARL (Read 8118 times)

Ric Clint · « **on:** October 15, 2008, 01:38:46 AM »

Not from me... it's from daveozio

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http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?BallID=916&ManufacterID=15&ReviewID=30065

jkiser01 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2008, 12:53:42 PM »

MC,

After reading it again, you could be correct but after 6 games that seems kind of odd..

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I thought that when he said it "lost its luster" that he was saying that he lost the intrique it had. Otherwords, the honeymoon was over. just my opinion.
You could be right but I understood it another way.

Mike

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your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..

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I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.

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ElectricLeftSlider · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2008, 12:59:32 PM »

That's exactly what I meant when I said "lost it's luster" or even "wow factor". It's hasn't been the monster ball that it used to be when I first bought it. I play with alot of oil on synthetic lanes. Talk about being a oil sponge soaker.

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I thought that when he said it "lost its luster" that he was saying that he lost the intrique it had. Otherwords, the honeymoon was over. just my opinion.
You could be right but I understood it another way.

Mike

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your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..

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I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.

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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2008, 06:21:39 PM »

My 4 year old was bored today, so i spun the ball at 2k abralon no polish and off to bowling we went. Now the ball is still longer than original Cell that I have polished but outhooks it in the back easily 6-7 boards. I was able to move in the full 6 boards and the ball came alive on the same Wet/Dry it was all over the place on Monday night.

So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck

I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.

So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.

Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM

Ric Clint · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2008, 07:39:26 PM »

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My 4 year old was bored today, so i spun the ball at 2k abralon no polish and off to bowling we went. Now the ball is still longer than original Cell that I have polished but outhooks it in the back easily 6-7 boards. I was able to move in the full 6 boards and the ball came alive on the same Wet/Dry it was all over the place on Monday night.

So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck

I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.

So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.

Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM

What was your CELL PEARL's coverstock finish before you took it to 2k abralon?

charlest · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2008, 11:59:17 PM »

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your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..

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I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.

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They don't call me Mr. Mirofiber for nothing. I wipe my ball before, during, and after my leagues. I didn't say the ball died, but the ball lost all it's "wow factor" .I've even hit it with 4000 grit ab. It worked a couple of games, then it went limp. My Storm Domination has more snap in the backend than my Cell. Oh well.

The Cell is not SUPPOSED to have "snap" on it. If you don't understand what a ball is, what its basic design is intended to do, then you will probably not use it on the right oil pattern nor will it be drilled correctly. Thus, it is inevitable that you will be unhappy with it.

At 4000 grit Abralon, my Cell, not Cell Pearl, hooked so much at the backend, it alsmot did snap.
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stormed1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2008, 08:43:06 AM »

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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2008, 09:01:51 AM »

One of the problems with this site.

I thought David Ozio is in his 50s!

Unless his name really IS David Ozio(could be). One should not be able to use a pros name and do reviews. It just smacks of me calling myself John McCain and making outlandish posts out here about Obama.

The review.....good....until he says he wouldn't buy another RotoGrip. The PRO Ozio I can't imagine that post from him or another pro.

For ElectricSlider.....aren't all pearls suppossed to have more "Snap" that a solid like the Cell that is known for its powerful and smooth continuation?

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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2008, 09:16:35 AM »

Well, it it really was David Ozio, he would NOT call his bwoling styl "tweeker", or...?

BTW - if it is a bowler's impression, that's fine. But using someone else's name to add... credibility(

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tdub36tjt · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2008, 11:15:14 AM »

I have saw 3 Cell Pearls on the lanes, all 3 are good bowlers. One of which is on the Roto-Grip Amatuer Staff and another a "Roto-Grip Pro Shop" operator. And only one of them looked even decent and it wasn't the guy who is on Staff or the Pro-shop operator. The one that looked decent was a lower rev strojer lefty. The other 2 I saw looked like terds. I was seriously considering buying one since I loved the Cell so much but after seeing them in action I probably won't buy one. I might consider getting a used one or something later down the road but would have to be the right deal. Maybe its a fluke tho too since so many people love the ball.

jkiser01 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2008, 11:26:45 AM »

I guess my question is what do you mean they looked like terds? What lane conditions where they using this ball on? How where they drilled? Where they box finish?

I think I would have to know all those things before I could say a ball looked bad in anyone's hands. There are way too many variables that could fall into place here..

There are also several very good reveiws on this ball, so I chalk it up to some people expecting way to much out of new release stuff or they just don't match up well with the ball.. Thats for sure happened to me before but that doesn't make it a bad ball, just not for me..

Remember, a ball is only as good as the driver.. LOL..

Just my 2 cents..

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I have saw 3 Cell Pearls on the lanes, all 3 are good bowlers. One of which is on the Roto-Grip Amatuer Staff and another a "Roto-Grip Pro Shop" operator. And only one of them looked even decent and it wasn't the guy who is on Staff or the Pro-shop operator. The one that looked decent was a lower rev strojer lefty. The other 2 I saw looked like terds. I was seriously considering buying one since I loved the Cell so much but after seeing them in action I probably won't buy one. I might consider getting a used one or something later down the road but would have to be the right deal. Maybe its a fluke tho too since so many people love the ball.

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Edited on 10/16/2008 11:35 AM

tdub36tjt · « **Reply #26 on:** October 16, 2008, 11:55:06 AM »

I can't tell you the layouts, but one of the bowlers is a 235 average the other like 225. So I wouldn't say it was the bowlers not being good. I'm not gonna say the ball is garbage I'm just saying that when I have saw them it did.That doesn't mean that I don't believe everyone else saying its "ball of the year", it just makes me skeptical. The ball just didn't want to carry no matter where he put it on the lane, it was endless 10,8, or 7 pin. I don't know if it overdrives or what just wasn't impressed with how it rolled and carried. Saying it was a terd might be exaggerated but I just wasn't impressed.

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I guess my question is what do you mean they looked like terds? What lane conditions where they using this ball on? How where they drilled? Where they box finish?

I think I would have to know all those things before I could say a ball looked bad in anyone's hands. There are way too many variables that could fall into place here..

There are also several very good reveiws on this ball, so I chalk it up to some people expecting way to much out of new release stuff or they just don't match up well with the ball.. Thats for sure happened to me before but that doesn't make it a bad ball, just not for me..

Remember, a ball is only as good as the driver.. LOL..

Just my 2 cents..

quote:
I have saw 3 Cell Pearls on the lanes, all 3 are good bowlers. One of which is on the Roto-Grip Amatuer Staff and another a "Roto-Grip Pro Shop" operator. And only one of them looked even decent and it wasn't the guy who is on Staff or the Pro-shop operator. The one that looked decent was a lower rev strojer lefty. The other 2 I saw looked like terds. I was seriously considering buying one since I loved the Cell so much but after seeing them in action I probably won't buy one. I might consider getting a used one or something later down the road but would have to be the right deal. Maybe its a fluke tho too since so many people love the ball.

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Edited on 10/16/2008 11:35 AM

ccrider · « **Reply #27 on:** October 16, 2008, 05:12:25 PM »

This posting seems useless. Although I have only been bowling a couple of years, I have owned a lot of balls, and do all that I can to learn and understand.

Any of you who have a basic understanding should know that lane condition, ball set up, and individual ability has more to do with the end result than how good or bad the ball is.

Take the Cell Pearl, or any other newer releases, drilled correctly for a good bowler, on the correct lane conditions and they will make the ball shine.

Put the same ball and bowler on the wrong lane condition and he may be able to score with the ball, but the ball will not look as good.

Buy the ball and try it if you can afford it, and that is what you want to do. All of the discussion about how good or bad the ball is ------ useless.

CC
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #28 on:** October 16, 2008, 05:14:26 PM »

Rick box finish, sorry busy with work and getting school finalized. Going into bean counting with my 20 years of Business background I have a good chance at CFO or CEO jobs in about 4 years.

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My 4 year old was bored today, so i spun the ball at 2k abralon no polish and off to bowling we went. Now the ball is still longer than original Cell that I have polished but outhooks it in the back easily 6-7 boards. I was able to move in the full 6 boards and the ball came alive on the same Wet/Dry it was all over the place on Monday night.

So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck

I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.

So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.

Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM

What was your CELL PEARL's coverstock finish before you took it to 2k abralon?

Edited on 10/16/2008 5:14 PM

Juggernaut · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2008, 08:03:40 PM »

quote:
This posting seems useless. Although I have only been bowling a couple of years, I have owned a lot of balls, and do all that I can to learn and understand.

Any of you who have a basic understanding should know that lane condition, ball set up, and individual ability has more to do with the end result than how good or bad the ball is.

Take the Cell Pearl, or any other newer releases, drilled correctly for a good bowler, on the correct lane conditions and they will make the ball shine.

Put the same ball and bowler on the wrong lane condition and he may be able to score with the ball, but the ball will not look as good.

Buy the ball and try it if you can afford it, and that is what you want to do. All of the discussion about how good or bad the ball is ------ useless.

CC
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BBock727 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 20, 2008, 08:47:24 PM »

So whats the right lane condition for this ball?

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