Matt,
You know that never dawned on me that they shared the same cores. But in the desriptions they have different numbers for the core, but they both look the same to me. I like my apocalypse more than the OV too, but I really haven't taken the OV out for a good spin yet.
Dave,
I completly agree with you, without the original sonics(solid and pearl) there is a gap in the low end pieces. I think that Roto may be leaving this open because the market isn't as big as light medium to heavy oilers. But if I didn't have my sonics, I dunno where I would be
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??