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RotoGripFan

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Apocolypse?
« on: March 08, 2004, 04:11:03 AM »
Is It Me or When You Have Any Type Of Carry Down, This Ball Doesn't Finish. On My House Shot Its Pretty Oiled In The Middle and The OutSides are Pretty Dry.  But Half Way Through The First game, The Ball Does Not Finish. So i End up Switching To my Top Fuel. So My Apocolypse is Drilled Pin Under Ring Finger, and a 1/2 Weight Hole off My Cg. I Keepd It Box Finish. So Im Wondering If I Should Get Rid Of My Apocolypse and Get a Pure Fuel, Because I Heard The Pure Is Stronger. Any Sugg? Thanks
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2004, 08:13:54 PM »
The Apocalypse is not designed for carry-down, especially in box condition. And, the Apocalypse has a stronger cover than the Pure Fuel....do NOT get the Pure Fuel if you're looking at carry-down, you probably won't be happy either...

Your house sounds like mine...carry down happens real fast!  Carry down doesn't happen that fast in all places, but....  If you want it to last longer, take down the box finish to either 800 or 1000 smooth, or, 600, then put a 'light' coat of polish on it...it'll probably handle carrydown much better.

If you really like your Apoc as is.......just keep it as is and keep moving to your Top Fuel....sounds like this one house is where you're having trouble...

Good luck......


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Jeffrevs

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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2004, 06:08:04 AM »
buddy,
thanks for chiming in........Please keep in mind that things are going to be different for everybody.  The fact of the matter is, ...the Apocalypse has a stronger cover than the Pure, that's why I said what I said.  I don't have an Apocalypse, but have a Pure and took it down to 800, then put a light coat over top and that helped it read the mids real nice !  My Pure CAN handle a bit of carrydown, but not much .....

thanks again........

oh, by the way, are both your Apoc and Pure in box condition ??
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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2004, 01:58:59 PM »
RGFan and buddy beat me to it. Saturday in league it was very hot so the lane man but a head shot on the house shot to prevent the cry babies from whining. First game 279 everything is fine, second game carrydown sets in and I shoot 187. Keep in mind this is a mixed league so a lot of urethane and plastic is thrown all over the place. But it has never gotten this ugly. The Apoc in box condition hates carrydown from an inside angle, this was the first time I have seen this ball back off in the back. Drilling is pin under bridge, cg under ring finger, mb in strong position. 3rd game I moved right increased the speed and came more up the back of the ball and shoot 294 (four out of the middle) I thought this ball was great looping the lane but its even better the straighter you can go with it sort of like a Fear Factor. This ball is super versatile. Its great when you come around the side of it but even better when go more up the back of it.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2004, 09:15:20 PM »
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In all honesty you should try the Apocalypse before you make comments about the ball.


Buddy,
In a lot of cases I'd agree, but I don't have to try a ball to pass along design intent, etc.......my comment came right from Roger at Roto-Grip, I asked him the difference between the Pure and Apoc because I was interested, he told me.......the cover on the Apoc is stronger.

I do have the Pure and I know MINE doesn't like carry-down....

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just forwarding RG info, that's all
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Mustang Guy

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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2004, 09:31:38 AM »
RotoGripFan,

I wouldn't suggest getting rid of your apocalypse.  If the Top Fuel worked good when you hit the carry down I would just keep that in the back of your mind for when you see the lanes transition like that again.  Yes the Pure Fuel should handle carry down better than the apocalypse,  that is the idea of a pearl particle.  Both balls are meant for medium conditions with a strong backend motion.  The Pure Fuel should naturally go longer and make a sharper turn at the break point, but shiny out of the box it does get a bit squirly in carry down.  I suggest a light surface on the Pure Fuel for the carry down or like Jeff said sand to 600 or something and put a light coat of polish on it.  

You have a couple options...if you want to discuss further please give me a call at 888-450-6920.

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Re: Apocolypse?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2004, 07:48:40 PM »
teflon,
that's the reaction / result I was informed of when getting the differences betweent the 2 balls............
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