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jeorj

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Cell died.
« on: March 16, 2008, 03:20:45 AM »
Has anyone experienced the cell losing its reaction? My friend was crushing the hole with it for a month, then he cannot even get it to turn much and it hits like a pillow. This is not a lane thing as it acts the same on dry lanes. I mean he was plaing 15 to 5 with a Groove and couldn't play 20 to 15 with his Cell.
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River700

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2008, 11:51:21 PM »
Well, its called being lazy and not cleaning your equipment like your suppose to, especially with the porous and aggressive coverstocks now.
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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2008, 12:36:59 AM »
tell him to sell the cell to me
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BackToBasics

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2008, 07:40:13 AM »
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All reactive balls need Care to retain Lane Readability, the Cell is more porus than most balls so it's going to absorb more oil @ a Faster rate to produce more hook & hit, the Cell absorbs oil faster so as a Cell owner,


I believe one of the design features of the new Cell cover is that it doesn't absorb oil as fast which increases coverstock longevity.  Something about the matrix of the coverstock and fiber length.  I don't know the oil absorption rate compared to other covers.   Maybe Roger could expand more.

I have 2 Cells and have not seen any drop in performance although it's probably too early (2 months) to really notice.  However, mine had not been touched except this past weekend when I needed more push and polished both.  I'll just hit them fresh with 2000 again.
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shelley

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2008, 07:50:02 AM »
Anyone else catch that he's throwing a Groove 15-to-5 but the Cell is barely moving?  Those two balls are not even close in oil-handling.  I know the original poster said this is not a "lane thing" but if you're using a Groove successfully, there can't possibly be enough oil for the Cell.

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scotts33

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2008, 07:53:04 AM »
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For me it's NOT about the poster....Joe. How many times do we see the same topics? Is the ball being cleasned religiously? Is the ball being used on the wrong condition? If a Groove is flying I would not try to use a Cell on that condition. JMO.


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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2008, 07:55:49 AM »
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Anyone else catch that he's throwing a Groove 15-to-5 but the Cell is barely moving? Those two balls are not even close in oil-handling. I know the original poster said this is not a "lane thing" but if you're using a Groove successfully, there can't possibly be enough oil for the Cell.


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Kid Jete

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2008, 08:05:24 AM »
I use hot water baths on my equipment.  Most of my stuff has 200+ games on them and they still have near the reaction they did when I bought them.  Of course I clean the balls after every set and keep the coverstocks maintained as well.
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directdrill

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 09:48:18 AM »
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Thats what you get for buying Roto Puff


Go back to your Lane #1 forum and discuss the importance of static weights, ad nauseum.
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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2008, 12:12:34 PM »
Really.  It takes a lot of nerve for a Lane #1 guy to pull something like that.  Don't you already have enough enemies without provoking another forum?  Roto Grip has an excellent track record for both the quality of their products and their customer service.
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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »
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Thats what you get for buying Roto Puff


DURR!

Anyway, I am with shelley and scotts33 on this one.  Not knowing the exact situation of course, but it's not like a lot of information has been given in the first place.  Everyone else has had their Cells since they came out and a month after you didn't see all these threads about them all dying.
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230-n-up-or-bust

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2008, 12:28:28 PM »
Darnit....the $200 ball I bought isn't performing the way it should while the $45 ball is all that I really needed.

Matchups...

Ball speed.  Axis rotation.  Revolutions.  Ball specs.  Coverstock.  Oil volume.  Backends.  Carrydown.

Try taking a couple of these things into consideration when purchasing a bowling ball.  Don't just buy a ball 'cause the rest of the world is putting up phone numbers.  These magical orbs aren't "game in a box" for everyone that buys one.

Just a thought.
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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2008, 12:31:33 PM »
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Matchups...

Ball speed.  Axis rotation.  Revolutions.  Ball specs.  Coverstock.  Oil volume.  Backends.  Carrydown.


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mainzer

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2008, 12:57:34 PM »
If a power Groove is hooking I wouldn't even dream of touching a Cell you would have to be nuts. Tell your friend to clean it give it a hot water bath for about 20-25 minutes. but in all seriousness if the  Groove is working the Cell shouldn't leave the bag unless it has some serious polish and a drill pattern to make it go long
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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2008, 03:09:54 PM »
I recently watched a good friend struggle for a month throwing his formerly reliable spider ball, on a variety of medium and medium-hvy conditions. The best he was able to attain was low to mid 500 sets.

I implored him to clean his equipment.... for weeks. After agonizing thru watching his frustration.....I offered to clean his ball for him!

It took 3 good hot water baths to clean all that greasy, slimy oil out of his coverstock! Took his surface down just a bit to get some cleaner, and more unused surface showing, and then finished with regular ball cleaner and just a very lite polish.

His reaction is definitely not 100% oob, but it's a heckuva a lot better than what he was getting. I'd dare say, he's getting 75%-80% of the reaction he was getting when he first bought the ball. This Dude NEVER cleaned his equipment!

Nuff said! Ball maintenance is one of the most important factors of good ball reaction!
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toomanytenpins

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Re: Cell died.
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2008, 09:19:08 PM »
its funny i read this post after bowling sunday mornining and it occurred to me that i hadnt soaked my cell since i bought it. It was hooking ok and the carry was still good ,but i thought i have had it a couple months and i have been trying tomuse it on some pretty slick conditions.
    So before night league i soaked it and i was shocked the amount of oil that came out of it ,had to soak it twice and i still didnt get it all out. When i bowled with it in the morning it was a toss up between it and my odyssey playing pretty much the same line .After i soaked it it was a monstor i couldnt control. It read the shot way too early and i couldnt keep it right of the head pin. My odyssey was barely getting back to the pocket. I honestly had a bad night ,but my point is that it didnt die and it probably wont if you keep it clean. Mine is at 1000 grit and last night i didnt have enough speed for it at all. So if you think its dead ,you know how sometimes you get around people that smell so bad they smell dead,all they need is a bath ,and the cell is no different.Get the oil out and unleash the beast. They should have named it the virus ,because i declare more and more people are getting it.
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