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BigHorhn

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Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« on: March 08, 2013, 02:28:39 PM »
Are they the same ball? I read one review that said the Lucid left more back row pins on good shots then the Soul. The Soul carried better. I'm looking for a ball that will handle oil and still back end on medium/heavy conditions. I also considered the Disturbed. Any opinions will be welcome.

 

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 04:08:20 PM »
BigHorhn: I have both balls and they are drilled a touch different. My Soul is pin over ring with the MB 3 inches right of thumb and my Lucid is pin over bridge with the mb right next to thumb. My Lucid is long and more angular compared to my Soul. The Soul is clean up front with a strong midlane and a continuous backend. Remember if you are building an arsenal you want to drill  a ball for a specific purpose. What do you have so far. The Disturb is a great ball too. It's defnitely long and strong on the back but not angular. What type of shape are you looking for?

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 04:13:06 PM »
They're not the same, look at the descriptions and pictures of their cores. They're equivalent to one another; similar designs but different executions. You could probably manipulate each one to do similar things and handle similar releases and oil patterns.

They both will handle medium and heavier oil amounts with a strong-ish backend if you have enough oil and enough ball speed to use them properly. If you pick the right Angles and pin placement for your release and the the oil amount on which you'll be using them, I doubt you'll hate either one. They both hit very hard.

It's up to you or your driller to pick the right drilling and the right surface.
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BigHorhn

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 04:26:19 PM »
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm trying to put together my tournament arsenal. I have a couple of versa max drilled different ways and a meanstreak to handle the mediums conditions. I also have a old amf terminal velocity particle ball that handles the floods. I need a ball above the versa max and meanstreak. I think I have settled on a brunswick ringer for light to dry conditions. My release is up the back I have very little tilt. I usually don't need help in the front of the lane, just need something to finish on the back end. I need that medium heavy ball and I have narrowed it down to those two. The disturbed my not be enough on the back end if I have to move in.
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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 05:55:32 PM »
I have the Soul and thrown the lucid. Liked the lucid, love the soul. The soul is very predictable and gives me a good read of what's going on. I have mine drilled 50x5x40, great midlane read and continuous arc. Love it
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Bigmike

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 01:09:12 PM »
I have them both. My observations so far and lay outs:

Defiant Soul is pin under at a 45* angle with the mb on my VAL and wt hole in the P3 position (just under the mb)

Lucid is pin up at a 75* angle which puts the mb slightly right of my thumb and no weight hole.

Both are box finish with just Storm Reacta-Clean towels. I do need medium to high volume for both to carry there best. If the length of the pattern is medium to longer both of these are beasts with the Lucid being real nasty thru the pindeck. If the length is shorter, then the Soul sets up a little better for me probably due to the lay out.

Both have there place in an arsenal. I like hybrids that lean more toward the solid side especially duller on higher volume/longer patterns. I also like strong pearls with surface on them as it eliminates the over/under for my game.

I am thinking of drilling a Soul pin up at 75* just to see if it will compliment the pin down one. If it does, the Lucid might get a shine to stage it under the pin up Soul to ball down to when that look is the best option thru the pins.
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BigHorhn

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 01:58:43 PM »
Good information BigMike. Sounds like the soul is the stronger of the two and the Lucid is the one to use when you want to open up the lane. I was thinking of getting a Freight train because of the price right now as my strong ball and getting a Lucid to go under it. I guess that should work. Thanks

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 07:43:29 PM »
Lucid is very good coming off the end of long patterns where you can't open up the lane.  Defiants (edge and soul) are better recovering with continuation where you can open up the lane a bit.  Since most guys are always trying to open up the lane, the Defiant Soul is going to be more popular with many people. 

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 03:41:35 PM »
So avabob and Bigmike, if you could only have one generally speaking which one would it be, Lucid or Soul? Thanks

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Re: Defiant Soul vs Storm Lucid
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 02:05:33 PM »
Lucid fits my game better so I would take it.  But I have won senior tournaments with both a Lucid and Defiant Edge over the last two months.  The Defiants remind me a bit of the Theorys in how they roll.  Lucid is very long, but very rolly ( interesting combo ) which I like with my lower rev delivery