Author Topic: Cell Pearl vs. Cell (Read 2065 times)

scotts33 · « **on:** September 30, 2008, 01:36:19 AM »

How much difference in ball motion does one think you'll get if you put a good polish like Valentino's over 2000ab vs. the 1500 polished OOB Cell Pearl?

I realize amount of polish and how much time you put on spiner is subjective.

Thanks!
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2008, 12:46:31 PM »

Not sure of the difference, but when I did what you said with my Cell, it had a large, fairly sudden snap. If the Cell pearl is snappier than my polished solid was, I don't want any part of it.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2008, 12:55:17 PM »

Thanks Jeff. I was waiting for your reply.

Any of the Roto guys compared these two Cell w/ polish and Cell Pearl OOB same layout?
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Jesse James · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »

Now see charlest, I'm just the opposite of you. I have been patiently waiting for the Cell pearl. I have a teammate that has a Cell, and much, much too often I see him throw it for four or five frames......and then he puts it up, because there is just not enuff oil, for it to be effective.

Oh, and it is indeed a beast! But I have little use for a ball that I've paid top dollar for, but can only use for 4 or 5 frames. And my teammate throws at a much higher speed than I.

So I will purchase a Cell Pearl and reduce the snappiness by way of drilling and surface prep!
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2008, 01:03:39 PM »

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So I will purchase a Cell Pearl and reduce the snappiness by way of drilling and surface prep!
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But, Jesse, if you have to change a ball's character via BOTH drilling AND surface, in my general opinion, then you've bought the wrong ball. If you want to "play" and test, that's something else.

Sounds like you need an Illusion, not a Cell Pearl.
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Jesse James · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2008, 01:32:40 PM »

But I'm not changing the ball. I already know what drilling to put on a Cell pearl, based on my style, and how I've seen the regular Cell react. So the first drilling I put on it will be the only drilling I put on it.

I may have to scuff the surface ever so slightly. At this stage of my bowling career, I change ball surfaces sometimes two to three times within a week. I've gotten pretty good at it too.

And you may be right. The Illusion might be a better ball for me to pick, I just happen to love that Cell core, however. The Illusion has the same core as the Horizons, and Mystics, of which I have four of those.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2008, 01:47:47 PM »

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But, Jesse, if you have to change a ball's character via BOTH drilling AND surface, in my general opinion, then you've bought the wrong ball. If you want to "play" and test, that's something else.

I'll disagree. (First off, isn't the out of box finish just a "suggestion" more than anything else? I'd throw that out of the equation to begin with. I'm wasting my time trying to use that 4000+polish box finish that Ebonite loves so much, for example) Perhaps he likes the smooth, predictable motion he gets from a strong pearl coverstock and rolly core with a weak drill and a scuffed surface? The Illusion may "naturally" fit the condition better if you drill it strong and leave it polished, but it also may be too over/under, be unpredictable during transition, and become prone to pinging corner pins.

I've got a Gravity Shift I bought from a buddy of mine for dirt cheap. I used Resurrection to take the surface down, then lightly polished it by hand to get an early, smooth-as-butter reaction. It's the smoothest ball in my entire arsenal (even smoother than my pin down Cell!), and great for when they are wet/dry and it's hard to control a weaker cover ball that skids too much in oil and snaps too hard off friction.

charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2008, 02:14:32 PM »

Dan & Jesse,

When Jesse said, "reduce the snappiness by way of drilling and surface prep", I took that to mean that he would not use his normal drilling nor his normal surface (whatever those might be for him), to modify the performance of the Cell to suit his purposes.

When you do that, explicitly what I thought he said, NOT what re-explained afterwards, you are, to my mind, buying the wrong ball. There are plenty of balls out there that do almost exactly what you need them to do, with their stock or VERY SLIGHTLY MODDIFED surface and with your "normal" tyoe of drilling.

Many of us "play" with balls or just buy ones we want to try. I admit, I do that, a lot. BUT I try them as the designer intended, in order to see what happens for me. Later on, if it proves not be what I want OR what I need, then I start with different surfaces and, if necessary, different drillings.

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Bigmike · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2008, 07:59:41 AM »

The way it has been explained to me by various reps of ball companies is that the factory surface is what the manufacturer sees as the best surface thru testing. This means the testers and there various styles are what they base there data on.

I'm sure that if BK or Wes Malott are testing Roto equipment, they are the exception and not the norm for how they play the lanes compared to the average bowler.

I got to see a Cell Pearl in action this past weekend by staffer Ed Riffle and once the lanes started to open up (longer pattern on a higher friction synthethic surface) he could get away with miss to the right by as much as 4-5 boards. This was a pattern that normally plays OB right of 7.

If he can open up a tighter & flatter pattern with ball, I can only imagine what this ball will do at Ed's Easy Lanes and Honor Score Lounge.

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Jesse James · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2008, 02:34:22 PM »

Thanks for all the input guys! Sorry for hi-jacking your thread Scotts!
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