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thewhiz

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Hot Cell
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:37:31 PM »
Any idea how a hot cell will compare to a pitch black?
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 05:11:01 PM »
It should be a bit stronger due to the asymmetrical core on the inside.  Also, it'll probably get into a heavier roll based on what I've seen with the Cell line previously.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 06:52:05 PM »
Go to the RotoGrip website. Click on the Hot Cell in the ball drop down menu. Inside, you will see a review tile where Chris Schlemmer talked about the ball and what it is designed to do. 
Sounds like it is supposed to give the lower rev guys who want to use urethane a way to shape a urethane ball like the strappers who use Pitch Blacks.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 06:59:35 PM »
I would be more interested if it was a very very mild reactive. Willing to bet most wont be able to tell much of a difference.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 08:03:15 PM »
>I would be more interested if it was a very very mild reactive

See Blue Hammer, or Fanatic BTU (and pearl).  Not asym core I guess.  Regardless have a strong feeling this is going to be my first Roto ball at some point.  Just got my Red Razor (Fab Black Hammer otw) so have more urethanes (5) than time to throw them currently.  First price drop all over it.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 08:54:25 PM »
Hello all,
 I am really interested in this ball, as a mere mortal that wants urethane goodness, now that I have less hand than I did back when urethane was the thing we all used...like my old purple hammer.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 02:57:41 PM »
I just want to know when we will see a ball video of it.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 08:46:51 PM »
Quote from: HackJandy on August 09, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
>I would be more interested if it was a very very mild reactive

See Blue Hammer, or Fanatic BTU (and pearl).  Not asym core I guess.  Regardless have a strong feeling this is going to be my first Roto ball at some point.  Just got my Red Razor (Fab Black Hammer otw) so have more urethanes (5) than time to throw them currently.  First price drop all over it.
Quote from: Roller on August 09, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
Hello all,
 I am really interested in this ball, as a mere mortal that wants urethane goodness, now that I have less hand than I did back when urethane was the thing we all used...like my old purple hammer.


Right, not an asym core in those. I had a storm barbed wire,weak resin cover and asym core. Ball was a freaking beast on the light or burnt. I had a desperado urethane with the strong asym core,ball was flat. I wonder what people think what the HC will do? I have a feeling they are in for a surprise IF it has a true urethane cover.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 08:52:53 PM »
Quote from: six pack on August 10, 2017, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: HackJandy on August 09, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
>I would be more interested if it was a very very mild reactive

See Blue Hammer, or Fanatic BTU (and pearl).  Not asym core I guess.  Regardless have a strong feeling this is going to be my first Roto ball at some point.  Just got my Red Razor (Fab Black Hammer otw) so have more urethanes (5) than time to throw them currently.  First price drop all over it.
Quote from: Roller on August 09, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
Hello all,
 I am really interested in this ball, as a mere mortal that wants urethane goodness, now that I have less hand than I did back when urethane was the thing we all used...like my old purple hammer.


Right, not an asym core in those. I had a storm barbed wire,weak resin cover and asym core. Ball was a freaking beast on the light or burnt. I had a desperado urethane with the strong asym core,ball was flat. I wonder what people think what the HC will do? I have a feeling they are in for a surprise IF it has a true urethane cover.

Desert Ops is a light oil asym but not sure how weak it is.  I actually want to get a pearl urethane before worrying about asym core.  Yeah not sure anyone is going to be big on it at that price especially.  Hard to pay $175 for a ball you can't use on anything heavier than house shot.  It will probably carry better than any other urethane (although reserving judgment until I get this red razor punched out and can roll it) but people throwing urethane rely on accuracy which as you say might be a rude surprise for people who have never thrown urethane before and see their adult bumper not there to save them.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 09:05:52 PM »
my fav is still the original black hammer
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 09:09:06 PM »
Quote from: six pack on August 10, 2017, 09:05:52 PM
my fav is still the original black hammer

Mine's on the way.  Took awhile to find a 15lb for a decent price in decent shape.  Ended up having to go to 16 for the red razor.  If I could have found a Genesis The Judge LE which is the old Black Hammer in all but name I would have paid $200 for a NIB 15lb.  Already got myself an old Fab Burgundy Hammer and damned if the thing isn't nearly as strong as my Crow.  Might actually be able to use even my black on some of the lighter house shots in the area.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 09:35:24 PM »
Sounds like a winner to me, HackJandy ;). I find myself interested in the Hot Cell for the chance of getting a urethane that can give a heavier roll and hit, and I really want to like this ball, but as someone aforementioned in this thread...that price point for a urethane seems steep...
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2017, 10:25:47 PM »
Yeah its a bit high but any of the new true urethane balls seems to cost at least $120.  I think they are more expensive than many of the reactives to manufacture (reactives that cost more are recovering R&D or ball hasn't been out long).  Another reason reactives dominate along with being higher scoring for most people on most conditions.  I don't have a lot of hand and really shouldn't even be using urethane but damned if for some reason they aren't the balls I want to buy and throw every chance I get.  Love how they roll and even how they smell.  Sure I will end up buying this one too eventually.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2017, 11:08:16 PM »
Quote from: HackJandy on August 10, 2017, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: six pack on August 10, 2017, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: HackJandy on August 09, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
>I would be more interested if it was a very very mild reactive

See Blue Hammer, or Fanatic BTU (and pearl).  Not asym core I guess.  Regardless have a strong feeling this is going to be my first Roto ball at some point.  Just got my Red Razor (Fab Black Hammer otw) so have more urethanes (5) than time to throw them currently.  First price drop all over it.
Quote from: Roller on August 09, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
Hello all,
 I am really interested in this ball, as a mere mortal that wants urethane goodness, now that I have less hand than I did back when urethane was the thing we all used...like my old purple hammer.


Right, not an asym core in those. I had a storm barbed wire,weak resin cover and asym core. Ball was a freaking beast on the light or burnt. I had a desperado urethane with the strong asym core,ball was flat. I wonder what people think what the HC will do? I have a feeling they are in for a surprise IF it has a true urethane cover.
Desert Ops is a light oil asym but not sure how weak it is.


From watching my friend throw it and also testing it, I believe the Desert Ops can handle light oil at box with a weaker layout  rather than strong. Also probably better to use a weaker hole or none at all. Using a p3 brought the ball strength up a bit and changing the surface makes an even greater difference. Still would like to experience s30 for light conditions.
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Re: Hot Cell
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 08:42:01 AM »
Quote from: six pack on August 10, 2017, 09:05:52 PM
my fav is still the original black hammer

 Shot my first ever 300 with one.

 Still have it, still throw it, and shot a 745 series with it last season.

 Under the right conditions, it's still hard to beat, and it turned 30 years old this year.
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