Post by: wkf0908 on May 21, 2008, 12:54:58 AM
Post by: rotomike on May 21, 2008, 08:56:33 AM
I would love one as well.
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Post by: TheDude on May 21, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
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Post by: Mr Straight Ball on May 22, 2008, 03:39:13 PM
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Post by: Jock on May 23, 2008, 03:32:37 AM
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I've upped my average, so up yours!
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on May 23, 2008, 06:19:15 AM
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
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Post by: Trubador on May 23, 2008, 08:29:46 AM
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Equipment in Bag:
TZone, Cell, Awesome Revs, Awesome Finish, Twisted Fury
Not in Bag: Fury x2, Fury Pearl TE, Rock On!, LT48
Post by: hjk246 on May 25, 2008, 04:00:37 AM
Post by: Locke on May 25, 2008, 04:18:17 AM
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Post by: charlest on May 25, 2008, 10:10:20 AM
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I'm surprised that there is no Hybrid Cell or heck a hybrid at all in R/G's U.S. lineup. Every hybrid that they have released I loved.(Apocalypse, Silver Streak SE, and the Saga) I would like to see a hybrid cover wrapped around something!
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Preaching mode on ...
The only use I see for a hybrid coverstock is it's pretty. Are you a bowler or an interior decorator?
If you want a certain reaction, you buy a ball that gives you that reaction FOR YOUR RELEASE, FOR YOUR OIL PATTERN, FOR YOUR LANE SURFACE. You do not buy a certain type of coverstock or a certain type of core or a core with XXX specs. That guarantees nothing in this day of modern coverstocks and very sophistcated cores.
This is not a theory. This is a fact.
A ball like the Cell, especially the Cell, is capable of a huge variety of potential reactions. You do not need a coverstock that's half pearl and half solid. With the asymmetry of the Cell's core, with its large RG differential, and with its very maneuverable coverstock, it is capable of so much beyond being "just" an oiler.
Since I can't use the Cell's stock surface in any league around me, once I finished testing it, I started to manipulate the surface, WITHOUT changing the drill at all. I was astounded. With just 2 polishes and one sanding, I three COMPLETELY different reaction, one was even a virtual skid/flip reaction on a medium-light oil pattern.
This is the first ball I have seen in the past 15 years that you can, in practice, IN REALITY, between drillings, and coverstock manipulations, cover every oil pattern, every oil amount, every lane surface from medium-light to true heavy oil.
I suggest you stop looking for something that may never exist and use what's there right now to get what you need, not what you want.
Preaching mode off.
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Post by: Dan Belcher on May 25, 2008, 05:47:09 PM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on May 26, 2008, 05:41:23 PM
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Post by: nospareball on May 26, 2008, 10:50:32 PM
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I actually used my Cell today at the box finish on an absolutely beat-up second shift shot on wood lanes. Tons of friction up front, quite a bit of carrydown meant pearl equipment got kinda squirty, but that Cell is SO continuous I was able to just keep moving my feet left and it never quit driving. What a fantastic ball. charlest, you hit the nail on the head when you said that it's versatile, and that's not even with surface changes!
I agree, the Cell is one of those balls that if you can adjust, or if you like adjusting the ball you can make it work on almost anything. I'm pretty adept at changing speeds, so for me I can make it work on the dryer side of medium where a pearl might be a bit touchy at the breakpoint. And I can use it on a heavy shot if I slow it down. You can do that with a lot of balls on the market, but this is the only one I've found that acts the same at the breakpoint no matter the condition.
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Post by: Storm269 on May 28, 2008, 03:28:33 AM
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In my bag :
The Cell/Buzzbomb Twisted Fury Buzzsaw Clear Diamond
Post by: Jock on May 28, 2008, 04:30:06 AM
According to the numbers (and the advertising hype) on the roto grip site the only different is the color!
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Post by: Mustang Guy on May 28, 2008, 09:49:06 AM
Back when we had the Oracles we did the Oracle Vision, Oracle Legend, & Oracle Wisdom. All 3 were the same ball and they were send to Asia every month for 3 months.
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Post by: gsback on May 28, 2008, 10:04:31 AM
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Exactly! This is how our Distributors in Asia work. Change the color and send me another container. If they like a ball they continue to order many variations.
Back when we had the Oracles we did the Oracle Vision, Oracle Legend, & Oracle Wisdom. All 3 were the same ball and they were send to Asia every month for 3 months.
Thanks,
Sorry....but bowlers here are not any different. Some will ask questions and some will drool just because the color of the ball is different....and yes...there are those that will probably swear on some book that they'll throw the ball better just because it's the color they like. In the end, people will complain that the manufacturers are merely releasing the same ball over and over again. But people will still buy it!!
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Post by: Mustang Guy on May 28, 2008, 08:28:31 PM
Our procedure on international balls are no different from any other manufacturer. The Distribution of products are completely different from the states.
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Post by: Storm269 on May 28, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
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In my bag :
The Cell/Buzzbomb Twisted Fury Buzzsaw Clear Diamond
Post by: Jock on May 29, 2008, 10:33:08 AM
I believe that Roger meant that the WAY of issuing and distributing balls overseas is different from the way it is in the states.
I mean, the same ball with two different colors (two releases) would never work in the states, right? But it's the way to do things in Asia.
It's still RG, it's the distributors and the customers that change.
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Post by: gsback on June 04, 2008, 05:33:35 PM
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I believe that Roger meant that the WAY of issuing and distributing balls overseas is different from the way it is in the states.
I mean, the same ball with two different colors (two releases) would never work in the states, right? But it's the way to do things in Asia.
It's still RG, it's the distributors and the customers that change.
I'm not sure I would agree with the issue of releasing a ball again with different colors in the States and people not buying it. I think you'd find plenty of people who would buy another Widow if the ball looked like the Hammer Psycho.
Same reason why us men still enjoy the XXX stuff when married or with GF.....we have to have that visual and it's gonna be different!!
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