Oh ya I got it, can I say ball of the year already! This ball is so smooth through the heads then has a strong move that drives through the deck. I don't have exact numbers for my layouts, so I will try to explain them instead. I am r/h. First the Solid Hyper Cell. The weight on this ball is 15.3 with 2.96 top. It has a 3.5 - 4 inch pin. The mass bias or psa is about 1 3/8 to the right of where the pin and the cg line up. I have the pin above the ring, but not directly under the pin, shifted to the left about a 1/2 inch. My thumb is 3.5 inches from the psa. So my guess on the layout is 4x2 3/4 x 2 with a balance hole 2.5 inches to the right of the c/g.---------------------------- Now the Skid -- weight is 15.2 --top 2.17 it also has a 3.5 to 4 inch pin. Now the mass bias or psa is about 3/4 of an inch to the left of where the pin and the c/g line up. I have the pin over the ring (same as solid).My thumb is 2 1/4 inches from the psa. So my guess is 4 x 3.5 x 2 with a balance hole 2.5 inches to the right of the c/g. All I can say is the layout works. The Skid clears the heads with ease then just comes back with a really STRONG move. Now IMO, I have to keep my speed up, I cant get soft or it will flip sooner. I absolutely love this ball! Once in a while you just match up with core and cover, at least I have. I have extra confidence when I use this ball. It has my vote for ball of the year. YES ITS THAT GOOD!