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C-G ProShop-Carl

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mini review: Retro Resurrection
« on: March 23, 2004, 09:35:29 AM »
Layout: I drilled this ball very similiar to the Dynothane Anomaly I had. Pin above ring finger and cg kicked out slightly. This layout required no weight hole.

Lane Condition: WOOD LANES, 38ft buffed to 44ft, heavy oil in the middle tapered out to the gutter. Like a Top Hat

LINE: On the fresh league shot when first started I had to stand 29, laying the ball down at about 21 getting to 14 at the arrows with my breakpoint at about 9 board. As the oil carried down (and one 2-8-10 too late) towards the end of the 1st game I had to move my feet right to about 27----moving everything out a board or two.

REACTION: This was my biggest suprise, the Resurrection was everything the Anomaly wasn't. This ball moved, and with a slight adjustment handled the carrydown very well. Once the ball was released you could see it reving up at about 35 ft and when it hit the backends it was GONE! STRAIGHT LEFT. My first few shots in practice I was trying to stand on 24, and play roughly 12 at the arrows.....GOODLUCK. This ball was very strong, much stronger than I figured it would be. I see this as my ball to play around the carrydown with.

IMPACT: The HIT on this ball rivals that of the RUSH. One huge difference, it keeps the pins low, other than the 2-8-10, it carried everything, leaving me only 1 ten pin to shoot at for the entire night, which is good for me. Watching the pins fly back while staying low, it looked like the RR was driving through the pin deck by itself.

READABILITY: This part of the ball is very difficult to measure after only 3 games. However, when the oil carried down and that 2-8-10 was left, the ball told me is was time to move. I see this ball as something to read the lanes, and when it hits dry, you will know it.

OVERALL: I have to love the ball, it won me a strike jackpot tonight paying for itself 4 times over, and this was only the first night out with it. With the recent purchases of the Apocalypse, Rush and now the Resurrection, I am starting to gain alot of confidence with Roto Grip in my hands. NOT quite what I have with Track, but close. It is stronger than I figured it would be, but that is OK, I know some simple coverstock tweeking could take care of that. HOWEVER....it is so good how it is out of the box, I will not change it. This ball is fantastic----so far. REMEMBER, this is me, and this is just a quick review....I will post a thorough review once I have a decent amount of games on the ball.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 04:09:39 AM »
Hi Ex,

You threw this out of box, right?  Almost hit like the Rush too?  I sold the Rush simply on it's carrying power, I even wrote and told Roger and Hank how impressed I was with that ball.  Thanks for the info..

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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 06:16:18 AM »
EX,
How did your Resurrection come in box condition? Just wondering....also, could you please do a comparison in overall reaction between this ball, the Rush and Apocalypse ??

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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2004, 07:11:27 AM »
I'll give you $200 for it... but only if you throw it for me too.

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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2004, 08:09:18 AM »
kid--you got a deal!!!

Rick---Yep, right out of box.

Jeff---My guess is that it was considered the 1000 Matte, however, it had a slight shine to it. I do not think it was quite 1500 though. In comparison to the RUSH---slightly more angular and they both seem to start reading the lane at about the same time, I think it keeps the pins lower when it hits. In comparison to the Apocalypse---just a hair less angular, and hooks up a hair sooner as well. Between the 3 balls, I have liked them all, but right out of box this ball impresses me most. I will do a more in depth comparison on this same thread a little later when I have more time.

Hope this helps.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 08:12:28 AM »
quote:

 In comparison to the RUSH---slightly more angular and they both seem to start reading the lane at about the same time, I think it keeps the pins lower when it hits.

Do you think it handles the same amount of oil as the RUSH?

quote:
In comparison to the Apocalypse---just a hair less angular, and hooks up a hair sooner as well.

With less backend as the Apocalypse, yes ?


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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 11:57:57 AM »
OK.....my more in depth comparisons.

Resurrection vs Rush: Overall reaction, very similiar, but the RR is more angular on the backend. With fresh backends you could easily find yourself standing 3-4 deeper with the RR. The Rush would be slightly smoother. On the same pattern, under the same conditions the RR recovered better when I had to get the ball outside of the carrydown than the Rush did. Both balls are good, and could easily be used to help fill an arsenal.

Resurrection vs Apocalypse: The Apocalypse handled carrydown well, but not as well as the RR. I have the MB on the Apocalypse about 1 1/2 inches left of my VAL-with that said, I think the backend reaction on the two are simliar. If you were playing both the Apocalypse and RR on the same condition, you could easily find yourself standing in about the same spot. THAT SAID-----the reactions happen at different stages. RR checks up a little bit sooner and seems more continuous on the backend. The Apocalypse is more skid flip for me. Trying to say it best.....the backend difference between the RUSH and RR is the same as the difference between the RR and the Apocalypse.


JEFF---let me know if that makes sense, it does not, but when I come back and read it later I will probably confuse myself.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2004, 12:02:01 PM »
OK, so in your study ....the RR is
sharper than the Rush, but not as angular as the Apocalypse.........right ?

However, all 3 can cover similar conditions?
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2004, 12:07:55 PM »
Jeff, they can all be used on almost any condition, atleast for me.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2004, 12:09:46 PM »
quote:
Jeff, they can all be used on almost any condition, atleast for me.


EX, what about question 1?
the RR is;
sharper than the Rush, but not as angular as the Apocalypse.........right ?
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2004, 02:15:56 PM »
Jeff, correct.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2004, 05:41:14 PM »
Excal,

Very interesting. I would have "ASSUMED", from BTM and BJI reviews AND the specs and RG's own info, the Rush should have been able to be used on slightly heavier (maybe, medium-heavy oil), while I would have "ASSUMED", for all specs and all reports seen to date, that the Apoc and the RR would have handled slightly less oil, maybe medium oil, in general.

I'll have to keep these balls in mind. They STILL sound so fascinating ... AND useful.
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Re: mini review: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2004, 07:19:40 PM »
I think what you have here is a strong rolling/arcing ball able to handle medium to medium heavies,...quick revving, low rg, continuous in the Rush.

And you have 2 medium balls that can be used in various mediums depending on cover-prep.....one high-end and angular/strong in the Apocalypse, and one in the mid-price and not quite as angular and strong in the Retro Resurrection.

I personally think the Rush stands alone in it's "arc-iness" ...

The Apocalypse is a big ole' "long & strong!" for mediums....drill and cover prep can vary amount of oil handling ability.

The Resurrection, a versatile medium ball as well, that's a little sooner than the Apocalypse but not quite as big on the back.  Maybe a more controlled version of the Apocalypse, but still more angular than the Rush, and in box condition MIGHT be able to handle as much oil.....

Nothing wrong with options I guess!?

With drilling and coverprep differences, all 3 of these "could" be in the same arsenal......not necessarily that you would NEED them, but it COULD easily work.......

EX, thanks and please chime in with more......
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