The hybrid release??...hmm

I like my Hustle POW (shot 729 out of the box at a tournament), but it is much stronger than advertised. It isn't much of a step down from my Code Black, NRP, Daredevil and Trick. Certainly not a ball down during my summer league. Mine isn't even drilled strong. I still need a true light oil ball or two.

Yeah there's just no way . . the diff is HIGHER than the IQ Tour core, and the RG isn't that much higher.  I like the idea, it just doesn't work with weaker covers, way too rolly. 

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on June 12, 2017, 06:50:14 AM

If it says Hustle on it, zero interest here.  Way too strong for price point and not a great core/cover match.  If the cover strength matches the core, too strong of a ball, and if it doesn't, you have the PRO and SAY which were over/under like crazy until you adjusted the surfaces.

Right, my thinking is that if the new Hustle does have a stronger/solid coverstock it might be a pretty natural step down from the Dare Devil Trick. The Wreck-It is too strong to be considered as such and the shape is different anyways.

Never going to trust that core or one with similar numbers to be a real options for drier conditions.

Now that I could see.  That core might be really good for one of these newer urethanes.
 Not a direction I think Roto will go given their smaller catalog, but I can dig that.
 

A dual color Hustle Urethane would be cool.

I like my Hustle POW (shot 729 out of the box at a tournament), but it is much stronger than advertised. It isn't much of a step down from my Code Black, NRP, Daredevil and Trick. Certainly not a ball down during my summer league. Mine isn't even drilled strong. I still need a true light oil ball or two.

Stop yourself. This is where the line gets blurred on house vs something that shows the true difference between bowling balls. To say there isn't much of a step down from a NRP or a DDT to a Hustle is false and I'd argue reckless to even suggest such a claim.

The issue is all cover on the Hustles.  I quite like the core, with an HP2 strength cover, it might be a nice addition there.  For my PRO and SAY to work, had to go weaker layout because more flare on a cover that's too weak to begin with will just make it worse, stronger roll with same traction, then I had to go 1000 polish to get it to read right without being early or pukey.  Had to be polished to get down the lane, but have a strong undergrit to read in the mids at all.  What they tried to do was get stability and control out of the core and fit it into HP1 with a super weak cover and they just don't match up.  Storm's Ride was one of the best true dry lane balls that's been out in a while.  Tropicals are too over/under, Hustle cores are way too strong, the Ride was just right. 

The Hustle PRO I recently tested was much stronger than I expected. It was much stronger than my Boost. It also outhooked my Unhinged. It revved up more than my 4 inch pin Hy-Road (2.52 .058) but didn't continue to continue from deeper angles. The Hy-Road responded to friction just as much, but continued in the spot that the PRO seemed to have an OOB. I guess if the PRO had a layout and surface to kick it up, would be kinda like a benchmark. But as mentioned, not for light oil lol. This testing was on WB Seoul.

Roto pushes it a bit.  Storm makes really safe stuff, stuff that's going to be good for a lot of people on a lot of conditions.  Roto goes for a bit more specific reactions.  The Trick isn't something that's going to be great for the average league bowler on the average house shot, but it's the best tournament ball on the market right now.  Both No Rules don't do anything exciting, they're just really solid.  HP2 line is ALL OVER THE PLACE.  Until they discontinued the Hectic and Wrecker, you could literally make a pretty solid "arsenal" just out of that line.  If it was food, Roto would be big flavors, and Storm would be bar food. 

A urethane Hustle would be cool. Schlem did say it's a cover nobody has seen... But yeah I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't know what it is but Roto Grip's lineup is consistently one of the most interesting to me.

Hustle Hard would be an awesome name.