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tjj300

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Inverted Horizon?
« on: December 30, 2007, 02:40:20 PM »
I have what was supposed to be a pro pin Horizon but it turns out to be a x-blem with a 8 1/2" pin.  I'm planning to invert the core and drill as if it has a 5" pin.  Has anybody thrown an inverted Horizon, and how did it react?

 

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 10:56:10 PM »
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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 11:51:37 PM »
Here here WSU.  Not to mention color blems can be pretty rad.
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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 11:59:06 PM »
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I'm planning to invert the core  


Is that the same as using an "anti-pin" on the opposite side from the "real pin"?  

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2007, 12:01:48 AM »
Yeah thats the anti pin.  DP3 drilled up an original silver streak blem like this.  He hasn't suffered any loss of reaction, matter of factly half the time he complains it hooks too much.  Shoot him a PM because I am not sure how its done, either that or wait for Shelly to post on this one, I know she has posted how to do it b4.

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 12:06:25 AM »
Cool, I asked because I have a RG Rush drilled like that and it rolls great..

Just wasn't sure what the "inverted core" meant..  

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 12:09:07 AM »
Just put the cg in the middle of your grip and put the pin over the fingers .
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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 08:22:33 AM »
I did a Horizon Solid inverted.  I loved it.  The only drawback for me was that my high track caused some flare over the fingers.  But it rolled like a champ and hit great.

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 11:51:36 AM »
Doing it is a piece of cake. Just put one end of your quarterscale on the pin, the other end is the location of the new pin.  My concern is with the core.  If you flip a multi-density core, you can get some interesting reactions.

I guess the Horizon Solid info is a good recommendation. Rotomike, what was the the new pin position in relation to your grip? Was it in a pin safe zone? I don't think inverting the core alone caused the flare over the fingers.




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rotomike

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 12:40:27 PM »
I drilled it in a "safe" area but I did put a very early layout in the ball.  The core inversion pulled the bowtie down a bit further than I had thought.  I loved the ball though.

I passed it on to a fellow bowler a while ago.  That was my fourth Horizon Solid.
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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 04:24:30 PM »
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either that or wait for Shelly to post on this one, I know she has posted how to do it b4.


Hmmph.

Yes, flipping it over and using the anti-pin works just fine.  Plenty of balls have been releases with basically the core inverted from some other ball.  Storm has done that with their FE2 core on a few occasions.  You can measure 13.5" from the pin (through the CG or not doesn't really matter), mark that spot, use it for laying the ball out like you would the regular pin.

But first, confirm the CG location and top weight.

I never thought of using the quarter scale like that but there's no reason that wouldn't work.

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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 04:41:57 PM »
The first one I remember was Storm with the Fire Storm and Forestfire Storm.

CG and top weight both check out.  


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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 07:15:23 PM »
I bought a RSX that was a blem that had the pin basically on the bottom, so I did the same thing with the quarter scale and the ball rolls amazing! It's the same thing Storm did with the Spit Fire and the Fired Up, they inverted the weight block in the Spit Fire! Let us know how it rolls! The RotoGrip #1 fan/Ricky Woods came to the center and we had a practice session and I showed him my RSX pearl ball that had the pin on the bottom. He couldn't beleive the pearl, because he has a bunch of RSX's and I think he was jealous! Thanks, Bruce
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Re: Inverted Horizon?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2008, 12:20:03 AM »
Sorry Shelly slip of the finger.

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