I am putting together a 4-5 ball arsenal for my daughter.  She is a 210 avg. tweener who bowls competitively in league and tournaments. She will be bowling the Queens and Women's open in 2015.  Her current stuff is a few years old with hundreds of games on each ball.  I am thinking one hell of a Christmas!  She is a small but gets a decent amount of hand in the ball.  I'm guess 350 rpm, about 15 mph off her hand, 45 degree tilt (hand and elbow on the inside of the ball throughout the swing - hand slightly outside at release.

Current thinking - (all pin up)

Sinister probably at 3000, favorite asymmetric layout 4 X 4
Disturbed - box 2000, 5 x 3
Wrecker at 4000, 5 x 4
Uproar box polish, also 5 x 4

Thoughts?  anything else (other than plastic spare ball)?

The Uproar is probably going to be closest in overall reaction.  IMO, the Wrecker is going to be much more skid/flip unless you adjust the drill layouts.

Hysteria is a must

You're crazy to pass on a hyper!

I'd go..

Hyper cell
Sinister
Hysteria
Uproar
Scream

Or
hyper cell
Disturbed
Hysteria
Wrecker
Uproar/scream (I usually never carry both of these at the same time)

Go for 5 you only live once haha

Thanks Bill.   I was considering the Hyper Cell as well.  She has never really matched up well with polished solids like the Nomad so I was not really considering the Hysteria but I can be convinced into it.  Right now my list is:

Hyper Cell
Sinister
Disturbed
Outcry (or Wrecker at 4000)
Uproar

I am still open to suggestions.

Keep in mind that the Disturbed is stronger than the Hysteria. Even at the same surface, the Disturbed will have more overall hook.

Interesting point.  What about the list I provided with the Hysteria instead of Disturbed but sanded to 3000?

15 mph off hand means 12.5 to 13 mph or so at backend is slow ball speed.  Best factor that in on lane conditions she will face and balls chosen with layouts and assume you are going pin up because of this? Some of the higher end stuff is too much ball for slow ball speed players unless on heavy IMO.

Absolutely slow speed with medium revs.  She is a true tweener in roll who plays all parts of the lane.  I normally completely agree with your 'too much ball' comment but in general her case it is the other way around.  Weaker stuff makes her square up where her carry isn't as good.  She is much better when she can create angle which tends to lean towards stronger stuff (actually more towards lower RG).

Right now she throws a Theory, Infinite Theory, Shooting Star, and Rising Star.  All have several hundreds of games on them and after years of surface work I'm thinking it is time to replace, especially her two go-to balls for years the Infinite Theory and the Shooting Star.

15 mph off hand means 12.5 to 13 mph or so at backend is slow ball speed.  Best factor that in on lane conditions she will face and balls chosen with layouts and assume you are going pin up because of this? Some of the higher end stuff is too much ball for slow ball speed players unless on heavy IMO.

He is right.  But I have to have a ball at the top, when I need help on a pattern.  The less I use my hyper the better...it stays newer, and I can jet ahead early instead of having to make up pins...

Scott,

These are all great comments - thanks.  FYI I wasn't necessarily trying to replace but more upgrade by targeting her needs.  Given what I've seen I thought the Disturbed would have been a better ball for her than the Rumble but it is worth a look.

To me tweeners more than crankers and strokers have to focus on angle to the pocket for carry.  Angle does not have to be more or less just what the lanes are giving you.  With a 45 degree tilt straight up really only seems to work on longer patterns for her.  It sounds like you are in the same boat.

BTW, given my intro I can see why you would think 'young and learning' but she has been bowling for 18 years and previously bowled for an NCAA team.  Mainly looking for good matchups and your input has been invaluable.  Thanks.

greenefam,

I wa unaware that she is that seasoned and yes that does change things.  The Rumble is weaker than the Disturbed by a long shot so I was giving you more a comparison of like strength balls.  Even though the numbers say the Disturbed is more of a match to the Shooting Star I would not call them close in total hook and strength as far as cover and core apples to apples comparison.  Though the Rumble is weaker numbers wise 2.60 .030 depending on weight it's more in the Shooting Star's range IMO.

As far as 45* I believe you are talking axis rotation.  What is her tilt?  I would get all of her bowling stats. calculated so driller can get correct dual angle layouts and surfaces correct for her.  My stats. are in profile.  I always believe in crap in crap out.   

Good luck, I think RotoGrip has a great complete line up top to bottom!