I am putting together a 4-5 ball arsenal for my daughter.  She is a 210 avg. tweener who bowls competitively in league and tournaments. She will be bowling the Queens and Women's open in 2015.  Her current stuff is a few years old with hundreds of games on each ball.  I am thinking one hell of a Christmas!  She is a small but gets a decent amount of hand in the ball.  I'm guess 350 rpm, about 15 mph off her hand, 45 degree tilt (hand and elbow on the inside of the ball throughout the swing - hand slightly outside at release.

Current thinking - (all pin up)

Sinister probably at 3000, favorite asymmetric layout 4 X 4
Disturbed - box 2000, 5 x 3
Wrecker at 4000, 5 x 4
Uproar box polish, also 5 x 4

Thoughts?  anything else (other than plastic spare ball)?

Scott,

Yes, I meant 45 deg. axis rotation - axis tilt is relatively high at 30.

I'm curious about your Rumble comment.  Is it your belief that the Rumble is earlier and more overall hook than the Shooting Star?

greenefam,

One has to be careful when we are comparing balls in that OOB surface on the Shooting Star and Rumble was/is 2000 a relatively dullish surface and both solid covers.  I believe the SS Ultimate Vision cover slightly weaker than the Rumble 55M cover but they both seem to have close ability to oil covering ability.  So, to me the numbers don't tell everything.  The Rumble is not the same strength as the Disturbed and the Rumble is closer to the Shooting Star.  I'd call the Disturbed a ball for medium-heavy and the SS and Rumble balls for medium and with surface adjustments and ability to change lines and release with some speed you could use a Rumble on light-medium.  I use a Rumble with surface adjustments on everything from light-medium to medium-heavy. 

My RG line-up is kinda different than most but I don't see that much heavy.  I use on original Cell pin down for heavy, Rumble in up Motion hole layout but never added the Motion hole for medium, and an Uproar pin up over bridge for light-medium and a VBP BG Centaur label CG mid grip for light.  I have a Storm SuperNatural pin up with Motion hole for ultra light and short patterns. My old Cell has 400+ games on it and will be replaced by a Hyper Cell or Sinister maybe later this year but I can't use these balls much around here so hard to invest the $$$.

One more point on Hysteria....Im throwing mine without polish at 4000 and on THS the ball is super strong, clean upfront and a very hard but controlled move. Comparing to my Disturbed, they are two totally different reactions, at the same surface(4000) the balls are close in total hook but the Disturbed still starts up way earlier with a totally different move. If we look at OB surface then the Disturbed is miles stronger. I find my Hysteria at 4000 a great compliment to my disturbed at 2000. As the Disturbed starts early and loses the punch, when Im on a heavier THS, then the Hysteria is a great drop down, stay in same spot and get through the heads and get punch on backend. I actually really loved my asylum but found that more often than not the reactions were so close between Disturbed and it, that it really wasnt a good go to ball after Disturbed. If the disturbed started reading early, so would the asylum. I traded it away because I find the cleaner motion of the hysteria a better compliment. The disturbed is a great ball that handles some heavy oil well and med heavy very well. One of my favorites and also takes surface changes well, but I find the Hysteria more useable.....They are both must haves in my opinion. I also have the Hyper Cell which is more angular than the Disturbed and handles heavy a bit better, but I could get away without it as long as I keep Disturbed in my bag

1-HYPER CELL  -- 2-- SINISTER -- 3-- ASYLUM --4-- UPROAR --- 5--OUTCRY  or I would also look at getting a DEFIANT SOUL, this is an excellent ball that is a step under the Sinister.

Its a long drop from Sinister to Outcry or Rumble I'm not sure why you really need both the Outcry and the Rumble. As far as backend reaction the Uproar has more movement than the Outcry, Rumble or Scream. I myself would suggest drop the Rumble. You can always rough the surface up on the Outcry if you need to perform more like the Rumble.

Hyper Cell
Sinister
Hysteria
Outcry
Scream

One of the better 1 company five ball bags out there now in my opinion.

longer and more angular than both.

OK, LAST list before I start shopping:

Hyper Cell
Sinister
Hysteria
Outcry
Scream

Two solids, two hybrids, one pearl

Last comments?

I just can't justify having both a Sinister and Hyper Cell. Id take out the Hyper Cell and go with a Disturbed.

Quote from: northface28 on October 24, 2014, 09:01:47 PM

Quote from: greenefam on October 24, 2014, 07:26:33 PM

OK, LAST list before I start shopping:

Hyper Cell
Sinister
Hysteria
Outcry
Scream

Two solids, two hybrids, one pearl

Last comments?

I just can't justify having both a Sinister and Hyper Cell. Id take out the Hyper Cell and go with a Disturbed.

Hate to disagree... But if I had to redo my arsenal that's what it would be!  My sinister is weaker (usable) than expected. 

The sinister is a perfect step down from my crux...

No harm, no foul. Thats why we are here.