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Shoutout33

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Roto Grip Cell question...
« on: January 26, 2008, 10:03:41 AM »
This may be a very silly question, but I would like to know, in out of the box condition, is the Cell designed for heavy oil or med. heavy? Yes. I do know that you can make a ball do whatever with cover prep and drillings, but, off the assembly line, what is it supposed to be for? Especially if using it on sport like (PBA experience type...) conditions. Thanks.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 06:10:06 PM »
Heavy oil
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 08:47:12 AM »
Guys,

Keep in mind this is a still a solid reactive that can easily be shined to work on medium patterns as well.  It is extremely versatile, except on drier conditions.

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Steve Richter

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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 11:48:35 AM »
Great point Roger.  I used the SAME Cell on Shark as I did on Cheetah - and that's 9 feet of pattern difference.  Very versatile indeed.

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scotts33

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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 12:30:14 PM »
How many Cells do you have drilled Steve and how are they drilled?  Remember when I asked you at The Hitter?  

I have on that Rob Bailey drilled and it's a heck'va ball just figuring out how to use it and when.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 03:11:16 PM »
Scott:

I have a 5" 45* pin under (no hole) and a 5" 75* pin over (no hole).  I have two more coming and I'm going to drill a stronger 45* and a weaker 75* later this week.  The 45* is the ball I used on the Shark and Cheetah.  The 75* is the one I threw twice at the Hitter.

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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 06:01:41 PM »
How much difference are you seeing between the 5" 45* and 5" 75*?  I'm going to drill one more and possible two but having trouble trying to determine the layout for the second.  I've been thinking 6" x 75* pin up polished.  My current one is 5" x 55* low pin low hole box but not seeing enough oil for it.  The times I've had a chance to use it it's been phenomenal.
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Steve Richter

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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 07:31:50 PM »
Chappy:

The two compliment each other very well.  Depending on how the lanes are at the start as well as through transition, they are similar in total hook but the angle change in the layout makes the shape different - as could be expected.  In the new 45* I'm going pin 4-1/4 froj the axis and the 75* I'm going with pin 5-3/4" from the axis.  Hope that helps...
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 05:43:00 AM »
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Scott:

I have a 5" 45* pin under (no hole) and a 5" 75* pin over (no hole). I have two more coming and I'm going to drill a stronger 45* and a weaker 75* later this week. The 45* is the ball I used on the Shark and Cheetah. The 75* is the one I threw twice at the Hitter.

 

Steve,

Not to get this too far off topic but I'd like to know if you have an Illusion to compliment these Cells you have drilled up and what layout you might have on one or two.  I assume you don't have a Pluto to compliment since you seem to like the more hooking stuff.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 06:47:02 AM »
Scott:

My Illusion is a 5-1/4" x 45* layout with 2000 Abralon with a coumpound finish I rubbed into it to take the edge off.  I have to be honest the only ball I've picked up since my CELL's came is a trick layout ball I used in a tournament.  Otherwise, I've left everything else in my bag so far so I don't have a gauge for you on the comparison.  However, PM tberk and he maybe could give you a better assessment than I.

I do have a Pluto and I drilled it 4" x 3" to try a "weak ball driled strong".  That ball is bananas for the $$$.  Because I don't have a lot of experience with stuff drilled that strong I don't know when to use it, but it sure is fun watching a $100 ball hook that much.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 06:53:01 AM »
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My Illusion is a 5-1/4" x 45* layout with 2000 Abralon with a coumpound finish I rubbed into it to take the edge off. I have to be honest the only ball I've picked up since my CELL's came is a trick layout ball I used in a tournament. Otherwise, I've left everything else in my bag so far so I don't have a gauge for you on the comparison. However, PM tberk and he maybe could give you a better assessment than I.

I do have a Pluto and I drilled it 4" x 3" to try a "weak ball driled strong". That ball is bananas for the $$$. Because I don't have a lot of experience with stuff drilled that strong I don't know when to use it, but it sure is fun watching a $100 ball hook that much.

 


Thanks for the reply Steve.  I am looking for something under the Cell for Natl's <ie. singles when they break down>. How close is the Illusion even though pearl to the original solid Silver Streak...some have said it has the same type of ball motion?

Watched a guy roll a Pluto in league last week.  Very strong ball for the $$$.  

You should talk to Kris S. about getting a Horizon Solid now that they are on special.  She could use another ball with more hook than her Saturn.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 06:29:40 AM »
did anyone else's Cell come polished?
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 06:34:50 AM »
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did anyone else's Cell come polished?


Read Roger's answer here.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 06:37:28 AM »
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did anyone else's Cell come polished?


Read Roger's answer here.
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Re: Roto Grip Cell question...
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 06:41:54 AM »
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 I am looking for something under the Cell for Natl's <ie. singles when they break down>. How close is the Illusion even though pearl to the original solid Silver Streak...some have said it has the same type of ball motion?
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Well I'm no Steve but interesting thought to compare Illusion to the Silver Streak solid. I had two solids, one pin down 4x4 and one pin up 5x4 or so. The pin up Illusion does react something like the 5x4 polished Streak did. From memory, the Streak might have been a bit longer. But I had it glossed up pretty good.

YMMV,

Mark


That's interesting Mark.  2000 abralon and some Storm Step #2 lightly buffed in might make the Illusion very Silver Streak solid like.
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