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Tommy716

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Looks like Storm needs to remake the Idol and Uproar bowling balls instead of  the Gem

 

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2022, 03:09:11 PM »
Pretty much illustrates it is the bowler, not the ball.  The USBC is approving 300 new balls per year, which is just ridiculous.
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Why is it ridiculous?

There is no real innovation in bowling balls.  300 new balls per year just shows the manufacturers are flooding the market with recycled products being sold under a different name and color.  It is unnecessary.

Ok so that means your against the open market? Why is it unnecessary are any of the costs coming out of your wallet? And I take it your a chemist that you are so aware of no improvements or upgrades to the current product line. I know everyone on here thinks they are a genius but you by far are the above all others
 

Not sure why you are so triggered over someone expressing an opinion.  The USBC puts limits on the dynamic aspects of bowling equipment including the oil absorption limits of bowling balls.  The manufacturers work really hard to convince you that they are making ground breaking advancements in technology.  That is all marketing, but apparently you are too easily influenced by their marketing departments.  You are the type of gullible customer they love.
 




So smart guy wrong again newest ball in my bag is a Phaze ll so I am not as gullible as you want me to be . Do everyone a favor next time you post try to make sense probably a tall task for a third grader but please try

Yet if you were out on the PBA right now, you'd be the epitome of the premise of this very thread. Congratulations for outing yourself.

Now, for the record, I wouldn't have a problem with using balls that are discontinued to win over new balls that are out there. for a good two years, Tommy Jones used the Gamebreaker over the Playmaker, The entire Mission series, the Signals, Pursuit and Pursuit-S, until the Challenge, Champion, and Pivot came out. The Gamebreaker came out in 2007, while the Pivot was 2013.

Besides, with this being a USBC tournament, I reference my post about using 30 year old gear in this tournament, because USBC rules apply, not the PBA.

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2022, 03:37:47 PM »
Never threw an idol..... Don't match up historically with the hp3 stuff ...idk why

But the UPROAR is totally one of the best low end pearls I've ever used
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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2022, 04:33:52 PM »
Just curious, where did he find an Uproar?  Does Simo have access to a cache of retired Utah balls to drill, or did he have to procure on his own?  Belmo was throwing a Purple Hyroad (Hyroad Nano?) a few weeks back too.

Can’t imagine those two balls were just sitting in the PBA truck.

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2022, 04:56:32 PM »
Just curious, where did he find an Uproar?  Does Simo have access to a cache of retired Utah balls to drill, or did he have to procure on his own?  Belmo was throwing a Purple Hyroad (Hyroad Nano?) a few weeks back too.

Can’t imagine those two balls were just sitting in the PBA truck.

I'd say he got them on his own, and because of that, that's what makes the Masters and the US open such unique tournaments, especially for the fact that they are USBC tournaments. Because of that, they aren't limited to what balls the PBA limits you to use. And given his history, I could see him going on the hunt for collecting unique or older, discontinued balls. I mean, if I could find another one, I'd punch up the NIB TPC Warrior I have, or plug/redrill the Forest Fire Storm I was given in the mid 1990s. If it works, and it's USBC approved, if they have it, they can use it.

Someone correct me here as I know I'm wrong with this, but was it the Masters or was it the WSOB about 8-10 years ago when the title match was contested by two bowlers from South Korea? If so, I want to say that both of the balls they used were overseas releases and weren't grandfathered into the list of PBA-approved balls.

Next season when she gets it (seeing her performance this year, she will), I'd love to see someone like Urara Himeji get the personal invite directly into the Women's US Open and watch her throw some of the ABS gear she has, along with the rest of the major brand balls in her bag.

Again, it being a USBC tournament makes all the difference.

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2022, 05:00:29 PM »
Just curious, where did he find an Uproar?  Does Simo have access to a cache of retired Utah balls to drill, or did he have to procure on his own?  Belmo was throwing a Purple Hyroad (Hyroad Nano?) a few weeks back too.

Can’t imagine those two balls were just sitting in the PBA truck.

His own stash of retired balls. He lives in Las Vegas.

Daren Tang is also in Vegas and has a stash of retired balls too. A lot of guys do, pretty sure Wes still has some gold IQ Tour Pearls.

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2022, 05:31:21 PM »
Just curious, where did he find an Uproar?  Does Simo have access to a cache of retired Utah balls to drill, or did he have to procure on his own?  Belmo was throwing a Purple Hyroad (Hyroad Nano?) a few weeks back too.

Can’t imagine those two balls were just sitting in the PBA truck.

I bowl with two touring PWBA players with SPI. Their reserves of undrilled balls is off the charts. I imagine touring mens players have access to almost anything ever produced.
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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2022, 05:48:02 PM »
Interesting, thanks. Being local had an advantage in this case.  Could, for example, the Uproar be used in a PBA event?

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Re: Strange that discontinue balls win the Master over the Gem ball
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2022, 06:43:20 PM »
Interesting, thanks. Being local had an advantage in this case.  Could, for example, the Uproar be used in a PBA event?

Of course. The only limit is the approved list and urethane can't be older than 2 years