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Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« on: June 02, 2005, 07:11:16 PM »
Both have similar core specs, what do you guys think?
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2005, 10:15:12 AM »
Arrrrr, never thought about it that way!
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2005, 11:50:45 AM »
NLPS,

They should end up being pretty close in reaction. When hte BCB was released it was touted as an oil ball.......and it wasn't. The RSX is strong, but not quite an oiler. SO they should end up playing the lanes the same.

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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2005, 03:03:43 PM »
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ok... from what i see

lane 1 response "nothing rolls like a diamond core, but the balls will have similar reactions, but the most important hting is nothing rolls like a lane 1 ball! nothing! its worth hte extra money!"

well.. no matter how good it rolls, it will only roll ONE WAY, because the ball will only have 1 drilling on it

if he were to purchase a RSX, he could have 2 different types of roll from the ball!

LANE 1 response- nothing rolls like a lane 1, TRUE
ROTO response - 2 RSX can roll 2 different ways!

both arguements agreed to? yes

both parties right? yes

one party has a BETTER solution? yes! RSX times 2!


If that's all you see you should look at things again.  Buy a BCB from Buddies and you drop 170 plus shipping and drilling.  Buy 2 RSX's and pay 190 plus shipping and drilling for TWO balls.  I don't think that the prices are the same.  Argument failed...
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2005, 03:22:46 PM »
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Both have similar core specs, what do you guys think?


Do they?  I think not.  While the numbers are similar there is still enough of  a difference that you'd see some discrepancies.  Especially if you look at the numbers BTM published in their reviews.
     RG      DIFF     Torque    Length    Backend    Overall Hook
BCB  4.6     9.9      6.5       10        14         52
RSX  2.6     8.4      6.0       14        15         46

Close, but not quite.  Even numbers aren't perfect though.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2005, 03:24:28 PM »
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20 dollars is the difference from 1 reaction and 2 reactions

20 dollars if what 2 thumb slugs cost, let alone an EXTRA BALL

arguement hasnt failed, your assumption that the arguement has failed - HAS FAILED!


No, you're failing to see the added cost that shipping and drilling another ball has.  Wake up and smell the lane conditioner buddy.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2005, 06:57:38 PM »
I think we can "guess" about their reactions all we want. Core specs will NEVER show the difference between 2 balls unless they have the same coverstock and the same surface prep and the same bowler throws the same drills.

So until we find someone who has thrown both balls, let's have some friendly guessing.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2005, 04:54:46 PM »
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ok, the buzzsaw may not be exactly double the price of the RS-X, it is comprable.. i think having 2 RS-x balls, drilled differently, would be worth far more to most bowlers, regardless of their favourite company or loyalties, than a CB and $20 or $30 in their pocket..

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Ryan,

That's kind of a two-edged sword - price. be careful! It cuts both ways.

Those of us currently getting good results from ONLY Lane#1 balls will not agree with you. Those of us who are getting good results from other brands of balls (especially mid-priced bargains such as the RS-* series) will agree with you strongly.

As always, YMMV.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2005, 07:19:08 PM »
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While I can see where you are coming from, I cannot possibly see how any ball will be better on a wider variety of conditions than 2 other balls drilled differently...

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Depends on the ball and the bowler AND the bowler's state of mind.

Keep in mind that I'm not advocating one or the other, BUT, realize, the best ball in the hands of someone who think it will never work is doomed to failure from the word go. The worst ball in the hands of someone who believes IN that ball has an excellent chance of working.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2005, 09:09:08 PM »
the black cherry bomb has been available for years now too....rs-x a few months?
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2005, 09:27:19 PM »
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Ah, I see what you mean... I'm thinking of people who will just throw a ball and judge it on its merrot...

people who throw a companies ball and say they would take it over anything from any other company, no-matter how it actually performs, are not my concern

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Ryan, Logic will get you nowhere.

Unfortunately, where people are concerned, emotion will always enter into the picture. As an example, look at the 2 or 3 replies just prior to this one.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 09:29:26 AM »
"While I can see where you are coming from, I cannot possibly see how any ball will be better on a wider variety of conditions than 2 other balls drilled differently..."

The only time I can honestly see this being the case is with an asymmetrical ball with a fast spin time. It will magnify hand and release changes. The only thing that you would not get out of one asymmetrical that you can get out of 2 other balls is coverstock change. 2 balls drilled differently one dull one polished would be a great advantage. I however, will take my asymmetricals.
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Re: Here's a good one RS-X vs Black Cherry Bomb.
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2005, 01:06:50 PM »
Ryan,

I was speaking in terms of any shot. When you have a strong MB on an asymmetrical changing your release can help that ball become 2 different balls. When an asymmetrical is drilled based on the bowler's PAP, when you change that PAP you are also changing the ball.

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