My info: Left hander, 230 plus on THS and higher than normal rev rate.
 Axis measurements: 3 5/8 and 1/16th up.

1st) 60x4x70 a small hole at P2.
WOW, this ball hooks!! With this layout on a 41ft THS I had to move extreme right and get the ball out towards the gutter so it would not hook past the head pin. By far board for board the strongest hooking ball I have in the mid to lower price points. The ball was simply amazing. Used it for about 10 games before posting this review. I was crazy to try it on Cheetah, so I used it on our marathon shot, which is pretty flat. Was able to play in and was hooking a little too much to be playing that deep. But overall, on the THS this ball was GREAT.

2nd) 30 x 3-3/8 x 70 medium size hole on P2
This one is much smoother and not as a BIG HOOK as my 60x4x70. Alot smoother length and hook wise. Don't get me wrong, it was not flat, just more of a good "rolling" ball. Used it for about 12 games on THS, and 4 games on our flat tournament shot. This layout performed much better on the tournament shot, less overreaction. Loved it... Feels real good and made my confidence better on the tournament pattern.

Thanks to Mike Sinek for the layout recommendations.
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Rick Mitchell
Roto-Grip Staff Member