Anyone throw both of these? How do they compare?

I have both and must say the battle is my favorite particle ball and has proven to be very versatile for me.  Cell needs more oil for me than my battle throughout the entire lane.  

Battle is layed out 5.5 x 4 with wt hole on val 3/4 above midline.  This places pin 1 1/2" above ring finger with MB 2 1/4" right of thumb, box finish.  This layout allows ball to clear heads and provides good length despite strong cover/core with a strong move at the end of the pattern.

Cell is layed out  4 x 4  with pin next to ring and MB 3" right and below thumb.  Weight hole on PAP (3/4" by 3") deep, box finish.  Ball tends to roll early, hard and continuous due to strong layout.  Taking cover up to 4000 abralon would help achieve easier length for use on med conditions if needed.

My Battle has less overall movement and is great ball on med-heavy conditions.  Cell reads midlane stronger and arcs much harder than my Battle.  The Battle will almost flip on a heavier pattern with clean backends.  On patterns over 45' I like to use the Battle and fade the ball to the pocket as it will flip at the end of the pattern and roll heavy thru the pin deck.  I can use the Battle on more patterns than I can the Cell right now.  My Cell is layed out a little too strong for my tastes.  I may drill another one with a 5" or 5.5" pin-to-PAP to allow it to get down the lane easier.  I haven't adjusted the cover on the Cell yet because I have an Odyssey drilled to roll early and I believe they would overlap.  

I've only been able to use the Cell during practice sessions on the Shark pattern.  No center around here uses enough oil during leagues to use consistently.  I have used it for the first game a couple times averaging 240 over three separate occasions.  I have to maintain higher speeds to get length I need to be able to use on local house patterns.  This has more to do with the layout than anything else, IMO.  When I see enough oil its great, just don't see that much oil very often.  Carry with the Cell is very good.  Pins tend to fly all over the place when matched up with the correct conditions, but so do most balls when matched up properly.

Both are very good releases and work well on their intended conditions.  Don't expect miracles as a ball is only as good as the bowler using it.  If it doesn't fit your style and lane conditions you're attempting to use it on they're just another run of the mill ball.  I feel with the proper layouts most bowlers would find they can cover just about any medium and up condition.

Battle is now strictly a tournament tournament piece and has made me enough money to pay for itself, an Odyssey, a Cell, a Horizon and an Illusion.  Battle is a great piece, the Cell looks to be another great Roto-Grip release.  You can't argue with it's success on the national tour so far this season.

Hope this helps.
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USBC Bronze Level Certified Coach
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Have to agree with Moose on this one...I too have both the Battle and recently the Cell....Battle was laid out stacked leverage as being a stroker  with med rev's fits my game very well....The Battle will go down and make a nice turn on the end on more an an oiler pattern and works great for carrydown....now the Cell i've thrown only once and drilled the same(maybe a mistake) in its OOB condition, this ball just stood up half way down the lane...when moving left to find more oil the ball will skid until it finds drier boards and then makes it move(its resin makes sense)the Cell definitley is more of a mid lane ball with continous movement....weaker drilling or polish would be needed for the Cell

for albuquerque, currently thinking battle at 600 to prep the line during shadows and maybe first game.  then switching to oob cell for last two games and perhaps the start of doubles and singles.  the battle should absorb oil and roll evenly early on and the cell should give me a better look down lane later on.
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why by a strong ball for medium conditions. Its one thing to settle for what you get from a ball the the idea of buying a strong ball and drilling it weak to use on a lesser condition than it was made for is beyond me. Now on thew other side i do have balls that i thought were strong that only work on lesser conditions.i.e,cell and battle. yeah i have both and i am unable to maximimize their unquestionable potential,because i have see other people throw my battle and it be stronger than what they are throwing. I had a friend throw my battle sunday and it was 5 boards stronger than his resurgence in his hand.
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