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Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« on: September 16, 2006, 07:32:49 AM »
I'm looking for a ball to use when the lanes go dry and my black widow starts going straight.  I'm a stroker who's had some luck with the purple vibe, but am wondering if anyone has experience with the Venus or both.

I'm looking for a good dry lane ball to go long and then break in (hockey-stick style) to the pocket.

Suggestions from Roto Grip users will be most appreciated, but feel free to suggest something outside of the Roto or Hammer line.

thanks!

 

Lillen

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 03:46:57 PM »
The Roto Grip Mercury might be a better choice, same core and a coverstock without particle.. (Sure Grip IItm Pearl)

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2006, 12:54:41 PM »
hi condition,

i too agree with lilen and brandon r. that in the roto line, by design, the mercury would be the better general "dry lane" ball choice.  however, i've experienced the motion of the venus to my liking on drier conditions than i did the mercury.  both balls had the same layout and cover prep, but i felt that the venus was slightly more "forgiving" on the backend than was the mercury and more receptive to hand positon changes.  this was possibly due to the venus having the 1% paricle load in it, which seemed to "soften" the backend and not make it as "skid/flip" when the lanes dried out.

although i'm a roto grip pro shop staffer, i've recommended and drilled many vibes(more purple than blue).  the vibes roll well for all skill levels at the
center where my shop is located.

hope this helps.

rk

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 05:26:20 PM »
A Purple Vibe with a negative pin will go longer than a Venus... So I've seen. I own a Venus but I've thrown a Vibe many times.

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 05:42:45 PM »
ppbc...

So you've left me confused...the Venus is the better dry lane ball.

And the Vibe covers more medium conditions...

OR???

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 06:04:13 PM »
Maybe the Venus I own is extremely strong??? And the 3 different vibes I've thrown can't hit a thing when theres oil on the lane. But when its dry, its money in the bank.

Vibe drilled negative pin will be great for dry...

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 01:13:05 PM »
hi lucky,

i'm sorry that you were confused by my response.  let me see if i can clarify...

yes, for my game and style of play, the venus is my choice.  however, for
most of my customers, it would be the mercury.  reason being, majority are
of the "rev, speed or both impaired" category.  the mercury allows them to still get good length, but still maintain a decent amount of angle of entry and continuation through the pocket, even when the lanes begin to dry.

regarding the vibe, it seems that the combination of a somewhat strong core
from the past combined with a fairly "strong" cover work well together at a
very fair price.  the ball maintains good length, but unlike some other balls
it doesn't seem to lose any "pop" or continuation on the backend.

hope this helped to clarify things.

rk

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2006, 01:19:16 PM »
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A Purple Vibe with a negative pin will go longer than a Venus... So I've seen.


If you have to drill a ball with negative pin to get the desired reaction, I think you've chosen the wrong ball.  

SH

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2006, 09:03:34 AM »
so...to finalize...

For you...Venus...your clients either rev challenged or speed challenged the mercury.

And for slightly wetter mediums the Vibe is a very good choice and a bargain.

I think I got all that right??  Si?

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2006, 05:13:56 PM »
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A Purple Vibe with a negative pin will go longer than a Venus... So I've seen.


If you have to drill a ball with negative pin to get the desired reaction, I think you've chosen the wrong ball.  

SH


I can't even argue with you because I haven't thrown it without a negative pin.

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2006, 04:50:21 PM »
I dissagree totally. And I have a personal challange for you, Please find a ball that you can put in the hands of a rev dominant player and have them have a decent hit on a dryer shot. Or worse yet a dry and SHORT shot, not a pretty picture for me.  I bust out the plastic in this case, I am about to drill 2 balls (whel money allows) with neg pins for CONTROL, I will drill a vibe neg pin and likely a pain the same.  This is only b/c they will handle the shots I need them too and be much more tame at the break than a "conventionally drilled" ball. Don't take that as an attack, just stating that guys who have revs can struggle with any aggressive drill.

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Re: Roto Grip Venus vs. Hammer Purple Vibe
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2006, 06:07:23 PM »
Mercury is the better option for dry because of the pearl coverstock.  For me, the Venus is too aggressive on dry because of the particle load.  In either case, you'll probably have to drill it weak to get the reaction you're looking for on dry lanes.