Post by: yo on December 02, 2009, 03:47:19 PM
Post by: the pooh on December 03, 2009, 01:30:16 AM
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Post by: Bigmike on December 03, 2009, 08:33:36 AM
I got a chance to try out a Natural at a Storm forecast and it was very slow off the friction. I almost left a pocket 5-8 on one shot.
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Post by: yo on December 03, 2009, 11:59:56 AM
Post by: JMartin27407 on December 03, 2009, 12:19:55 PM
When you say you are looking for something for dry lanes, do you mean lanes that have been broken down in the heads? Or do you mean a pattern that is short and the ball overreacts at the end of the pattern?
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Post by: J_w73 on December 03, 2009, 04:36:55 PM
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i do throw the ball with a bit of hand but i do want that backend kick when it hits the dry. i think im going to go with the neptune. unfortunately.. my pro shop can not get the neptune anymore, said it was discontinued? how is the mars compared to the neptune? sorry for all the questions..
The neptune is a great ball.too bad it is discontinued cause the MARS isn''t a good replacement for it.. The neptune is a strange ball.. on burnt heads and mids the ball will hold the line and won''t overhook.. but if you have some oil up front and clean backends the ball will have a super big backend.. atleast with how mine is drilled.. Id look online.. bowlingball.com has em for 69.99 right now.. but only to 13 lbs.. they have a 16 and 15 on ebay for 91 with free shipping..
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Post by: J_Mac on December 03, 2009, 04:49:08 PM
http://archive.teamhisp.com/products/2009/ball/mars_pearl.pdf
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Post by: leftyinsnellville on December 03, 2009, 05:12:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSd6n_qy6Gg
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Post by: J_w73 on December 03, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
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Neptune isn''t weak enough for dry. Here''s a video I made and you can see when I get it out to the dry boards on a house shot it reacts pretty strong...and I don''t have much hand at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSd6n_qy6Gg
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other than urethane or plastic what is a weaker ball in your opinion??
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Post by: yo on December 04, 2009, 12:05:14 AM
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The Mars is going to be slightly earlier due to it being a hybrid cover opposed to a reactive cover but the core still remains the same.
When you say you are looking for something for dry lanes, do you mean lanes that have been broken down in the heads? Or do you mean a pattern that is short and the ball overreacts at the end of the pattern?
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www.riverlanesproshop.com
when i say dry, i mean either burnt up where everything else over hooks, or its just too short of a pattern for the rest of my equipment. my vibe is too strong and my rayzr is too weak of a ball to hit at times. i was looking at the neptune and was hoping it would overlap both balls so i didnt need to bring both the rayzr and vibe. but since they discontinued the neptune, i was thinking about going with a mars. i dont like buying balls over the internet. just a loyalty thing to my proshop guy.
Post by: n00dlejester on December 04, 2009, 12:14:07 AM
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Post by: leftyinsnellville on December 04, 2009, 04:09:34 AM
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Neptune isn''t weak enough for dry. Here''s a video I made and you can see when I get it out to the dry boards on a house shot it reacts pretty strong...and I don''t have much hand at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSd6n_qy6Gg
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other than urethane or plastic what is a weaker ball in your opinion??
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For players with a fair amount of revs who don't want to throw urethane or plastic, I'd have to recommend either 900 Global's Link or Brunswick's Avalanche Slide. Even my Columbia 300 Loud NoiZe is weaker than my Neptune...not a lot, but it reacts smoother off the dry.
Edited on 12/3/2009 6:24 PM
Post by: ralphiejantz on December 09, 2009, 11:17:02 AM
I usually use it first game out of the bag its my go to ball
if you want something more tame try a freeze from columbia
or avalanche slide
or Link from Global
the natural is nice as well but can take some getting used to if you have never bowled with urethane before,
you have to really hit the pocket a little more flush and be much more consistent with urethane stuff compared to resin equipment
maybe look for an older resin type ball,
I just recently drilled and AMF Hawk that I found NIB and it works great on drier conditions that 1 of my leagues has
Post by: ralphiejantz on December 15, 2009, 09:53:51 PM
I throw between 450-500 revs (most of the time depending on the shot) and around 18-19mph and I really dont consider myself a rev dominating player
the natural simply does not carry as well as reactive resin products
theres no other way to explain it
it is not a bad product at all but it does not have the carry reactive does
the vibe is a much stronger than advertised product
if you want something that is tame and still carrys well look for some older reactive resin balls, something like the rhino pro line
turbo x
danger zone
etc.
you can still find some of them out there NIB for a good price
Post by: ralphiejantz on December 16, 2009, 08:17:04 AM
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the natural simply does not carry as well as reactive resin products
theres no other way to explain it
well that obvious since its a urethane ball so its naturally not going to carry as well
thats exactly my point, so I would look into a very very mild reactive ball instead of using urethane
I bowled with urethane for years when there was nothing else around and the reactive balls have made the game much easier,
so I dont know why you would want to use something harder to score with,
Post by: los2003 on December 16, 2009, 08:45:02 AM
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Mars is a great ball but too strong on a burnt up condition
I usually use it first game out of the bag its my go to ball
if you want something more tame try a freeze from columbia
or avalanche slide
or Link from Global
the natural is nice as well but can take some getting used to if you have never bowled with urethane before,
you have to really hit the pocket a little more flush and be much more consistent with urethane stuff compared to resin equipment
maybe look for an older resin type ball,
I just recently drilled and AMF Hawk that I found NIB and it works great on drier conditions that 1 of my leagues has
Post by: ralphiejantz on December 16, 2009, 08:58:30 AM
thats why I suggested looking into an older Reactive ball, like something from the mid to late 90's
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none of the three balls u listed are less that the nueptune..quote:
Mars is a great ball but too strong on a burnt up condition
I usually use it first game out of the bag its my go to ball
if you want something more tame try a freeze from columbia
or avalanche slide
or Link from Global
the natural is nice as well but can take some getting used to if you have never bowled with urethane before,
you have to really hit the pocket a little more flush and be much more consistent with urethane stuff compared to resin equipment
maybe look for an older resin type ball,
I just recently drilled and AMF Hawk that I found NIB and it works great on drier conditions that 1 of my leagues has