drilled a no rules exist a while back. as you can tell by the title,i'm unhappy with it. it's drilled pin above bridge cg kicked out and MB is closer to the val then my thumb. Don't remember exact numbers, but i remember it's 4in pin to pap.My problem with it, is it never turns the corner. I've tried surface adjustments of 500,1000,3000,4000 each throwing a game at each grit, still wouldn't turn the corner. I've tried bowling on eiffel tower(48 feet), thrown it on med feet heavy(i forget which shot it was) and nothing i did could get it to turn the corner. i've figured maybe it just needs some laneshine, that wasnt it either. I'm debating about either plugging it and going pin down to get it to start it's roll earlier, or possibly trading for a code red. Code red isn't really a replacement for an exist, but i haven't heard any bad about the ball, so i'll find a spot for a code red in my bag. What  are peoples opinions

forgot to mention, theirs a p3 weight hole in it now. my guess is that its just burning up too much energy in the mids and kinda just "puking out" 4 in pin to pap is strong, plus a p3 hole dont help it any! lol

Exist is a niche ball.  It's not supposed to turn the corner, it's like high powered urethane feeling resin.  The P3 likely isn't helping it at all either, you're flaring the core to a point where it's likely close to pin axis by the time it hits the backend, and that's not going to help it pop lol, especially like you said with the 4" pin already.  Put a piece of white tape on the pin and I bet you see that sucker staring straight at you when the ball hits friction.  I'd try redrilling with a weaker pin position if you want more pop. 

forgot to mention, theirs a p3 weight hole in it now. my guess is that its just burning up too much energy in the mids and kinda just "puking out" 4 in pin to pap is strong, plus a p3 hole dont help it any! lol

Like Luke said, the No Rules balls are virtually (if not practically) particle balls that are intended to be used ONLY on a true flood of oil, unless, of course, you have 20 mph ball speed and 150 RPMs (very speed dominant).

Have you used any other ball that is close to be this strong successfully on the lanes where you are trying to use the No Rules?
If not, is it possible that there is just not enough oil for you to use this strong a ball??

How do u guys determine if a ball is "slow response to friction ball" does that got anything to do with rg/diff

How do u guys determine if a ball is "slow response to friction ball" does that got anything to do with rg/diff

It's 80% surface, 10% core, 10% layout.

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forgot to mention, theirs a p3 weight hole in it now. my guess is that its just burning up too much energy in the mids and kinda just "puking out" 4 in pin to pap is strong, plus a p3 hole dont help it any! lol

Like Luke said, the No Rules balls are virtually (if not practically) particle balls that are intended to be used ONLY on a true flood of oil, unless, of course, you have 20 mph ball speed and 150 RPMs (very speed dominant).

Have you used any other ball that is close to be this strong successfully on the lanes where you are trying to use the No Rules?
If not, is it possible that there is just not enough oil for you to use this strong a ball??

I don't have any other strong aysm solid, not gonna lie I normally do hate aysym solids but wanted to give this a try. And I've used it on variety of lanes conditions and lengths, just don't seem to work for me

Sorry, but you didn't answer my question. Until you do, you yourself won't know if this is the right ball to use on the condition you cowl on or not!