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vkowalski1970

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First Imression of Venator.....
« on: July 26, 2013, 04:56:34 PM »
Drilled my Venator today......50x4.5x35

41ft THS( medium volume) after a 3 man senior league

Comparisons:

vs Defiant Soul drllled 50x5x40 2000ab.......Soul is a bit stronger, bit earlier and harder off the spot vs the Venator at OB surface. Took Venator to 4000 and the over all strength was very close but edge to the Soul, with the Venator still being a touch cleaner and a touch smoother off the spot. Venator at 2000 was earlier than the Soul, same over all strength and smoother off the spot.

vs Nano drilled 40x4.75x35....2000ab......Nano is much stronger(5-6 boards), much earlier and way stronger off the spot than the Venator at OB condition. Venator at 4000 was still 4-5 boards weaker, a bit longer and way smoother off the spot. Took Venator to 2000ab and it was still 3-4 weaker, and smoother off the spot...I would say at 3000/4000 Venator would be a good step down and compliment. When the Nano would start jumping and going through the nose, the Venator would be a great move.

vs War Eagle drilled 45x4x65 at 4000.....Venator at OB was 3-4 stronger and just as clean as War Eagle with similar motion. After initial frames with War Eagle I didnt throw again when I changed Venator surfaces.

Over all I would say it looks like a very good ball and looks like it will handle oil well, but I need to throw it on a heavier volume to see. The motion and strength were not as strong as i was expecting from all of the talk about the ball on multiple forums, but still pretty strong. Its hard to say where it would really fit until I throw it on some fresh, but what I saw today was that I liked it better and seemed to react and read better without the polish, but that is very typical for my game. The only polished ball Ive really had a consistent look with is the Blackout, Normally a 4000 pad is my friend. So that didnt surprise me at all. It definitely hits hard like all seismic balls and has that similar Seismic feel to it. Smooth/strong, not jumpy off the spot.
I will report back when I have thrown it on fresh pair. Thats when the true test will happens, again these are my initial thoughts.
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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 10:29:54 PM »
What you are reporting seems to be exactly what I saw in chris forry's video...
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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 06:51:56 AM »
Buddies pro shop had the Dominion looking 4 boards stronger.

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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 04:37:07 PM »
But the seismic staffers on here that have it say otherwise...like its the strongest thing ever. However, I do realize that the term strong has different connotations for everyone. My buddy is getting one...and I cant wait to see it.

He has a blackout as well which sits just below his fringe..
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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 06:39:35 PM »
I'm standing 30, lay-down 25, arrows at 18, breakpoint at 8 with the Venator, and standing 15, lay-down ten, arrows 9, 8 at breakpoint with Dominion. I'm FAIRLY sure that that video was not exactly a good representation.

That being said, if your testing against different brands has shown that it's not stronger, but is close to as strong as say the Soul, still not something to sniff at. Seismic has needed something like this, and I love what I've seen with it so far. 
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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 06:49:59 PM »
Since it looks like I started the doubt I need to make a comment. In my opinion I think the ball at the same surface and same drill as Soul will be just as strong but with a different motion. The Soul is the second strongest ball I've ever owned outside the Nano which for me has been too strong and only had about 20 games in 3 yrs. The Soul is a very strong ball which makes the Venator a very strong ball. Now also keep in mind I bowled after a senior league and not sure the were fresh when that started. I have a feeling it will perform well on fresh and heavier oil when it has the chance.
I can tell you that the Soul is very forgiving on broken down lanes where most other balks in that category are not. The reaction I got was very similar to my Taboo Deep Purple when I first got it and tested it in same situation. It looked decent but not impressive. Then I came out with it on the fresh first night of league and shot 279 out of the box and the ball was a monster on fresh and heavier oil. I am expecting the same with the Venator.
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Re: First Imression of Venator.....
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 07:43:58 PM »
I was playing my Venator just about 18 out to about 5-10 at the break point and it came roaring back easily. This ball is strong. This ball will handle any heavy oil pattern.

12XSECH my Venators are far stronger than the Dominion. The weak Venator drilled 90x 1 3/8x60 is a good 5-6 stronger than the Dominion drilled 70x4x40. My strong Venator drilled 70x4x40 and dulled to 1000 abralon is a good 12-15 stronger than Dominion. Chris was not using the Venator in the proper volume of oil. And throwing any strong ball on any light volume will make strong ball look bad. 
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