Quote from: scotts33 on May 21, 2018, 06:17:45 AMQuote from: billdozer on May 21, 2018, 05:43:43 AMQuote from: scotts33 on May 20, 2018, 03:17:19 PMHere's the plant you make up your mind. Google Maps link from Aug. 2012.https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x87df4a2ddfd32a53:0x161ba337b1267d91!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/Visionary%2BBowling%2BProducts%2B8709%2BXograph%2BAve%2BSaint%2BLouis,%2BMO%2B63136/@38.727258,-90.2655142,3a,75y,278.7h,90t/data%3DSeen the picture before, they poured balls for siesmic, last year with balls still in testing as we speak?Is there another section still in production bof this plant?The obvious answer is it's boarded up and closed...but if they're still making balls...?Raven line was 2015, 3 years after this pic.Last ball VBP released was The Crow 2 years ago summer of 2016. That's all I know. Once a company no longer is PBA sanctioned means they are probably on the wrong side of economy of scale. Have no inside knowledge and love the hell out of my Visionary pieces (by the way sorry to pollute Seismic forum) but when an industry isn't growing its usually the small guys who suffer most. All that said in my honest opinion Jason has proven for quite some time that factory can do top quality pours. Guess the question is can it be done at scale and profitably.
Quote from: billdozer on May 21, 2018, 05:43:43 AMQuote from: scotts33 on May 20, 2018, 03:17:19 PMHere's the plant you make up your mind. Google Maps link from Aug. 2012.https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x87df4a2ddfd32a53:0x161ba337b1267d91!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/Visionary%2BBowling%2BProducts%2B8709%2BXograph%2BAve%2BSaint%2BLouis,%2BMO%2B63136/@38.727258,-90.2655142,3a,75y,278.7h,90t/data%3DSeen the picture before, they poured balls for siesmic, last year with balls still in testing as we speak?Is there another section still in production bof this plant?The obvious answer is it's boarded up and closed...but if they're still making balls...?Raven line was 2015, 3 years after this pic.Last ball VBP released was The Crow 2 years ago summer of 2016. That's all I know.
Quote from: scotts33 on May 20, 2018, 03:17:19 PMHere's the plant you make up your mind. Google Maps link from Aug. 2012.https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x87df4a2ddfd32a53:0x161ba337b1267d91!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/Visionary%2BBowling%2BProducts%2B8709%2BXograph%2BAve%2BSaint%2BLouis,%2BMO%2B63136/@38.727258,-90.2655142,3a,75y,278.7h,90t/data%3DSeen the picture before, they poured balls for siesmic, last year with balls still in testing as we speak?Is there another section still in production bof this plant?The obvious answer is it's boarded up and closed...but if they're still making balls...?Raven line was 2015, 3 years after this pic.
Here's the plant you make up your mind. Google Maps link from Aug. 2012.https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x87df4a2ddfd32a53:0x161ba337b1267d91!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/Visionary%2BBowling%2BProducts%2B8709%2BXograph%2BAve%2BSaint%2BLouis,%2BMO%2B63136/@38.727258,-90.2655142,3a,75y,278.7h,90t/data%3D
fair enough. any timeframe ? I really would like to try some stuff from them.
As others have stated, VBP has let some know whats going on and will give out info soon.