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Schwanstuker

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Track assasin core?
« on: March 15, 2011, 11:04:35 AM »
Boy the new Seismic ball core looks like a bunch of old AMF/Track cores? Place a Power ring in the middle and you've got a Night Hawk, I know all you ball companies barrow from eachother now and then so Seismic, Please make a NightHawk Solid, I'd love to to buy a new 14 Nighthawk so I can toss another high 800!
 
Edited by Schwanstuker on 3/15/2011 at 7:10 PM

 

RyanRPS

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 07:23:08 PM »
As you say, with more "basic" symmetrical shapes there is always going to be a bit of an overlap - the "egg shape" has been quite common in simple cores over the years.  We regularly work with the 900 Global R&D team when developing new cores, and with the simple cores such as this we would generaly have a starting point of a shape similar to one of their old cores, so we know what range of core densities we will be looking at.
 
I think this is quite comon practise.  Otherwise the R&D, plus building new core moulds from scratch, would add a lot off cost, and every companies "mid line" would become "premium line" also.
 
Hope this makes sense :)
 
 


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Edited by RyanRPS on 15/03/2011 at 7:28 PM

Schwanstuker

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 07:32:58 PM »
Yes Ryan, it does!


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mainzer

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 07:45:17 AM »
reading that put a question in my mind.

 

Ryan did you guys modify and old core to create the TrailBlazer and Insignia cores, or did you create them from scratch?


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kidlost2000

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 08:38:38 AM »
I'd say it looks a lot like the classic Heat Core used on many Track bowling balls back in the day.


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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 08:44:36 AM »
I'm not sure what the point is. 
 
The real advancements by the companies are coming at the coverstock level.   
 
As far as using old cores, why not?  Judging from what I see on a weekly basis during leagues, the old balls still work fine. 
 
Apparently they work good enough for just about all the companies to go back to releasing balls with the basic light bulb/"pear" shape core.
 
They all boil down to the same basic shapes anyway.   The companies can change the density to manipulate the numbers.
 
Would you feel better if they took that same core and carved a few grooves down the side?
 
As far as the Nighthawk, AMF did a re-release (solid and pearl) a few years back...I think it was 2007.
 
 

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 10:54:11 AM »
Qstick hit the nail on the head - much of the real advances are in the covers.  Taking a simple core shape and putting newer covers on makes a huge difference.  And altering the core shape and its densities to suit the newer covers is how we get the desired reaction.
 
As for our other cores, for the Trailblazer we started with components from 2 different cores, put them together, and altered the desitites.  So was not exactly an existing core, like a child of 2 older cores :)
 
The Insignia core, and as will be the norm with all our Asymmetric cores, these are brand new designs, and are where our R&D is put into practice.  If we did not have to invest time, money, and in moulding for new core shapes for the high end balls, then we would not need to charge more for the high end equipment.
 
On this note, we are currently testing a new and exciting core that we have been developing, and will be available in our summer releases!
 
Hope this helps :)


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mainzer

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Re: Track assasin core?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 11:01:57 AM »
I am impatiently waiting LOL.
 



RyanRPS wrote on 3/16/2011 10:54 AM:
 

 

On this note, we are currently testing a new and exciting core that we have been developing, and will be available in our summer releases!

 

 


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