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mainzer

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New Desperado??
« on: September 23, 2011, 03:04:19 AM »
Anyone see the Desperado yet?



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Re: New Desperado??
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 02:27:37 PM »
I hope it's more of a Traditional Urethane Pearl like an Old School Blue Pearl Hammer, although the Desperado w/Silicone was a pearl to some degree, it would still start-up too soon with friction, it had it's uses at times but for the most part, it stayed in the bag and I decided to un-load it. If the Desperado LE has a straight High gloss Pearl Urethane cover, I'll try for this ball!  If Ryan wants to sell the new Desperado in Europe, he should sell it as a Le Desperado, so French bowler's would buy it?


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Re: New Desperado??
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 05:34:24 PM »
Check out the Seismic web site if you're really interested. Here's a brief summary of it:
 
Desperado: Limited Edition. This new Desperado "LE" uses the same  core as the original, but with modified densities to produce a lower  differential of 0.025. Oil pattern experts say that bowling balls with  differentials below 0.026 work best on shorter patterns, and we agree!

The  coverstock on the Desperado "LE" is a more classic blend urethane, and  is finished at P4000 grit Abralon to give you the smoothest reaction possible  at the end of the pattern.

The Desperado "LE" is designed  specifically for short patterns, and is not intended to cover a wide  range of patterns. This means that if you want a ball for short oil  sport patterns, you can have complete confidence in the Desperado "LE".

The  bad news is that this will be a VERY limited edition ball. If you would  like more details please feel free to email us, and have your Pro shop  pre-order their Desperado "LE's" soon, before they are all gone!

The worldwide release date is October 2011.



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Re: New Desperado??
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 01:18:05 PM »

The major difference between the newer urethanes and the old school ones is mostly the core.. when we were working on the original desperado we put one of the old school urethane covers on the ball (I cannot mention the actual ball name the cover was used on before!) and it literaly hooked at your feet.  The only differnce between the original ball, which would not hook much on modern oil patterns, and the ball we were testing, was the core, and yet the difference in reaction was huge.  Remember that the resin additive in reactive balls is made to make the ball skid more in oil and gip in the dry, so remove that and the ball hooks in the heads!
 
With the original Desperado we wanted to keep the core quite dynamic, so we looked to silicon to reduce the cover strength enough.
 
With the Desperado LE we have done away with the silicon, increased the RG, reduced the differential and MB differential.  We also added a very small amount of resin.. just enough to allow the ball to hold a shine, and give the ball that little extra help through the heads, but without taking away from the urethane reaction once the balls comes off the end of the pattern.  The quantity of resin in the Desperado LE is just 20% of that in the Blackout cover, for example.
 
We would again stress that both Desperados are designed for short oil sport patterns, and not light oil..  While the Desperado LE can be polished to give more skid, it is best kept for short oil patterns that have good head oil.
 
Ryan
 
PS, I like the "Le Desperado" idea :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
Schwanstuker wrote on 23/09/2011 2:27 PM:
I hope it's more of a Traditional Urethane Pearl like an Old School Blue Pearl Hammer, although the Desperado w/Silicone was a pearl to some degree, it would still start-up too soon with friction, it had it's uses at times but for the most part, it stayed in the bag and I decided to un-load it. If the Desperado LE has a straight High gloss Pearl Urethane cover, I'll try for this ball!  If Ryan wants to sell the new Desperado in Europe, he should sell it as a Le Desperado, so French bowler's would buy it?


Props to Afflac for dumping Gilbert!


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Edited by RyanRPS on 24/09/2011 at 1:21 PM

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Re: New Desperado??
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 08:08:00 AM »
the AMF Angle from a few years back used a blended urethane and resin cover, the pearl I believe, wonder if it is similar??


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Re: New Desperado??
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 08:14:18 PM »
Hey Ryan, are you going to Edit the Limited Desperado LE info on your site to say this ball is only available in 15? I just learned this info from Brinkley's $135 offer.


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