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Russell

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RealBowlers Tour
« on: February 02, 2009, 12:47:04 PM »
For those that live within any remote shouting distance of Atlanta, the RealBowlers tour is something you have to come check out.  The team at McNair Entertainment have been running them for a few years, and have stops from Birmingham, all over Atlanta, all the way to Greenville, SC.  They hold the tournaments all on one day, tough conditions, fair formats, and most of all, plenty of action.

The staff does a great job of hosting these events....in all honesty they are about as close to a regional as you can get for less than 1/2 the price.  The fields are just as strong as regionals these days, and the payouts are not chopped up with a National Tour.

Check out the site and come play....

www.realbowlers.com
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Re: RealBowlers Tour
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2009, 08:31:13 PM »
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What difference does it make what pattern they put out?  Everyone was bowling on the same thing right?

Because of people griping about things like this they quit posting patterns.  You show and bowl on what's there....shoe up and play.



The difference is that the equipment I brought was specifically set up for the Shark Pattern.  I would have been better off if they hadn't posted what the pattern was going to be because I would have prepared for anything.

I'm not giving $100 + to an organization that can't even make sure the proprieter lays out the pattern they contracted for, and only communicates when there is a problem to their friends and not all the competitors.

How many people here do you really think would be okay with that?

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Hello,
I am not sure how I stumbled across this post, I guess it was meant for me to see.  I rarely visit this website.
 
Lefty, I understand where some of your frustration may be with the pattern from the Atlanta Summer tournament.  The shot we posted and advertised was not put out.  We do apologize about that again. Which is also one reason why we have stop posting shots since that tournament.

Because, we are not programming the lane machine and running our patterns ourselves or we cant afford a lane man that travels to every tournament with us, we unfortunately can not guarantee exactly what we asked for to be on the lanes.  (Not sure how many tournaments you have coordinated and come across any of these issues but, we have done about 50+ tournaments in the past 4 1/2 years and unfortunately there are some things we just cannot control.)  Although, we are open to any suggestions you may have to make the tournaments better.

We did not find out from the manager what happened with the shot ourselves until the 4th game of qualifying. I do not know who you are or where you are getting your information but, please do not make false accusations of us "communicates when there is a problem to their friends and not all the competitors".  We hold ourselves to high level of integrity and honesty which is one of the main reasons we began doing tournaments in the first place.

Hopefully, you will get over your bad experience and come out and bowl with us again.  But please don't misspeak or send out false accusations unless you talk with us or one our team members directly.

Thanks

Theo McNair
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www.realbowlers.com  


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You admit that you found out that the shark pattern wasn't laid out in the 4th game, but it wasn't announced at that time.  I didn't find out about the problem with the oil pattern until I received your e-mail the next day apologizing for the mix up.  You must surely understand why I have my doubts that once the manager told you that the pattern was not the shark pattern that this information wasn't conveyed to somebody at the tournament.

Why wasn't it immediately announced when you found out?  If your organization is so much on the up and up, why weren't refunds offered at that time?

I stand by my statements.  I was there and what happened was wrong and nobody tried to make up for it.  It seemed obvious to me that protecting your profits was more important to you than making sure the competition was fair.


This post right here is why tournament bowling is dying.  You showed up the pattern was different....and it took you until an email the next day to figure it wasn't the Shark....and then you wonder why you weren't offered a REFUND???

Are you serious....?

However I have a serious question.....

If the pattern was not the Shark...and you couldn't figure it out in 6 games of qualifying...it would stand to reason that the pattern was REMOTELY similar to the Shark.  If it were 39 feet instead of 44 feet I think you would have noticed by the end of practice.

If the pattern was close enough to the Shark for you to not know until the next day....what difference would it have made?

Do you play the shark the same way everytime you play on it?  I have seen it around 10 times and never played it the same way twice.

Im just being serious....I think you're just complaining to complain.  I have bowled countless scratch tournament and never heard a more ridiculous complaint.
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Re: RealBowlers Tour
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2009, 08:36:50 PM »
lol i know ive heard more ridiculous a complaint lol...but thats besides the point
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Re: RealBowlers Tour
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2009, 10:22:17 PM »
wow take it easy guys, i mean i could defintly see being upset if persay u travel a good distance to bowl on what is supposed to be a demanding condtion and then you find out its a house shot, i would be upset too. not sayin thats the case, im just bored and cant sleep like most everyone else on here at about this time of day

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Re: RealBowlers Tour
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2009, 11:56:37 PM »
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seems like  a big pile of crap throwing to me. I will say this though, one does nessceraily need to have lots of equipment to prepare stuff for a pattern, sandpaper works well to take care of havin limited number of balls. And I could see how someone would dull up everything for the shark pattern and then be caught off guard by a different pattern.
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Look, I'm not trying to throw a bunch of crap.  Someone posted on here that the RealBowlers tournaments are great.  When I saw the post I remembered what happened to me at their tournament.  I thought that if someone knew about them doing something wrong at a tournament that I'd like to know about it so I posted what happened to me.  I didn't mention that after I received the e-mail about the screw up I contacted Theo and told him about how I thought this was unfair.  I inquired about the next tournament and asked about perhaps getting a discount or at least a guarantee about the pattern that was going to be put down.  He never replied.

If I am wrong about nobody being told about the pattern not being the shark, then I apologize.  I think it's understandable that I had my doubts based upon what happened and what I was told.  

I didn't say anything more than that until Russell felt it necessary to defend their actions by implying that I should have just sucked it up and accepted the fact that I was given the wrong information because everyone else had the same wrong information.

The simple fact is this.  If you run a business and you have an unhappy customer because of a mistake that you made, you should do something to make the customer happy.  If you choose to ignore that customer, don't get your panties in a bunch when that customer tells others to avoid doing business with them.


Lefty,

If you sent me an email I honestly never received it because I do reply to my emails when there is a concern.  I also checked my emails again before posting this response.  Please forward/resend me whatever you sent and I will make sure I reply (theo@realbowlers.com or feedback@realbowlers.com).
1) If getting a discount to one of our next tournament is what is needed I will make sure we do that for you.  We are striving to promote the sport of bowling and bring people together not turn people away.
2)Unfortunately, I can never guarantee to you what is on the lane, if I could we would not be having this conversation.

Look forward to hearing from you.  

Theo
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Re: RealBowlers Tour
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2009, 01:31:13 PM »
Theo,
As a fellow TD, good luck winning the battle! The PBA and sport bowling to me bought about this need to know the pattern in order to line-up for score. We as bowlers are using warm-ups to get loose versus get loose and read the lane. So when we walk in thinking we know the pattern, we tend to bowl in a box as we look for the pattern to be "here" when it could be over "there".

My friends tournament group and mine decided this year that we were just going to hold the pattern a secret and let folks figure it out. From what I have heard, you guys run good events. Of course, when I visit my parents in ATL, there is nothing going on. LOL
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