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Monster Stitch

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Livermore Valley Tournament!
« on: November 02, 2005, 06:05:48 AM »
Do any of you bowl this tournament?

I'll be making my first rounds on November 20th at Noon.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2005, 02:56:33 PM »
Well, it looks like my first go-around for this will be on the 19th of Nov.  Just in time to win some brackets and pay for Thanksgiving Dinner.  
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2005, 01:48:41 PM »
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a friend and i are very interested to do this
anyone wanna pick a date?
i assume it is a 2 person team?
the LVT page seems a little complicated
can anyone help clarify it for me
thanks

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There are essentially two events:  Team, and Singles/Doubles.  Reason I say that is because you can't bowl Singles without bowling Doubles and vice versa.

Team is five members per.

For All-Events, they take the scores from your first appearances in Team and Singles/Doubles.

There are *lots* of options...scratch for every event (but not All-Events), high game (hdcp and scratch), six-game Singles for the Singles/Doubles events, etc.  Worthwhile, because if you have a good set, you can rack up.

They oil on Saturday morning, Sunday morning, and before every Team squad.  So if you're planning on bowling at 3:00 PM on Sunday, be prepared to loft the cap.

Hope this helps.  If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2005, 03:56:41 PM »
Here's a link to a picture of the Granada Bowl brain trust:

http://www.pooterboof.com/braintrust.jpg

These fine gents are responsible for putting out that bowler-friendly lane condition for you.  
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2005, 10:22:15 AM »
Bracket Creep: Which lines do you recommed to use at Granada?

It seems that it is different from the left side of the house to the right side.

Especially 1 and 2, haha.

You were kiling htem with that Blue Impulse Zone last year.

It also seems everyone plays the middle and swings it out into the track.

Kind of like a wet/dry look.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2005, 10:33:54 AM »
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Bracket Creep: Which lines do you recommed to use at Granada?

It seems that it is different from the left side of the house to the right side.

Especially 1 and 2, haha.

You were kiling htem with that Blue Impulse Zone last year.

It also seems everyone plays the middle and swings it out into the track.

Kind of like a wet/dry look.


Granada's always been kind of funny...even though the pattern they use for leagues is essentially a modified Christmas tree, the outside doesn't play as well as one would expect, because the middle of the lane is so beat up.  I've seen so many people get fooled into thinking that they could bump the wall on the outside, only to see them run into severe over-under late in the first game.

I've found that the best way to attack them when they're fresh is to start inside the oil line with something with surface, so that when the ball gets to the dry in back, it won't jerk at the break.  Once they start to transition, though, they open up quite nicely;  oil pushes in the middle, and the track dries out.  The more they break down, the more favorable the shot becomes.  This is why I usually like to bowl Singles and Doubles at 3:00 PM, after two squads have bowled on them.

And oh yes, good catch on the difference between the low and high halves of the house.  Granada was originally a 16-lane center, and the wood part of the lanes on the original 16 is 40ish years old.  The high end was added in the late 1970s, and over the years hasn't gotten the same level of play as the original 16.  They tend to put open play near the control desk, as well as the smaller leagues, Monte Carlo, and special events.  In contrast, kid's leagues and birthday parties end up at the high end of the house.  So if you're on the high end, expect the back end to play *much* tighter.  They'll still open up, but you won't have quite the room to the right as on the low end.

Hope this helps.  Bowl well on Sunday!  I'll try to pay a visit if I can break free...
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2005, 01:01:57 PM »
Bracket Creep: Check your e-mail.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2005, 11:09:14 AM »
Wow. What an experience this time around. My buddies and i bowled
Singles and Doubles sunday at Noon. Bracket Creep and Ramtart bowled with my group of buddies. We all had fun. It was definitely challenging. When we got on the lanes they were fresh. Backends were super clean. Looked like your ball did a U-Turn down the lane. Ramtart and I were wheeling the whole lane. We didn't see any carrydown for all 3 games for singles. HAAH! Then we switched to Bracket Creep pair for Doubles. The middle of the lane had somemed oil all the way down the lane. It was nice. Finally got to square up and played a little swing. We all scored so so. Nothing great. We are all anxious to go back and try it again.

Who else is going to bowl and when?

I might be back this sunday at noon.

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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2005, 11:42:50 AM »
I bowled it on Saturday.  Bowled all three events.  Bowled well in singles, had a horrible reaction in doubles, and bowled average for team.  All and all I ended up right around +48 for the 9 games.  I'll be going back in first or second weekend in December.  I'll find out next week.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2005, 02:56:54 PM »
several of us will be there for the team squad on saturday at 230pm.  on sunday, i will be at diablo for peter's match games.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2005, 04:58:44 PM »
Bowl400, I thought the Diablo Tournament was saturday at noon?
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2005, 06:03:15 PM »
Jonathan, Jim is right...the Handicap Match Games is on Sunday, the 27th.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2005, 12:39:07 PM »
Thanks Ray.

Anybody else going to LVT?

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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2005, 10:17:46 AM »
LVT report for saturday at 2:30pm. the shot was different from what was described earlier.  backends started a little tight with a light ob 5 and out.  opened up a little as we got into the third game.  we were on 3 and 4.  most of us on the pair shot about average or a little under.  the anchor on my team with a lot of hand opened it up in the third game for a 250+ game.  will try to play it a little differently next time.
the match games at diablo for me anyway was much more playable.  got decent skid with pretty good backend playing a slight swing from 12-8.  got to cross with ramtart in one of the matches.  it was enjoyable to meet up with someone from this site.
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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2005, 10:24:49 AM »
Thanks for the update Jim. Jon also messaged me this morning and told me he bowled on LVT this weekend also. He mentioned that the lanes played differently than the week we bowled on.

I will try and see if I can bowl team event again in December and give it another shot =)

FYI - Jim (bowl400) kicked my Arse in the first match of another tournament yesterday 267-216...hehe, nice bowling man!

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Re: Livermore Valley Tournament!
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2005, 11:23:08 AM »
don't let ramtart fool you.  i got lucky on a couple of shots.  besides, i am sure that he was just respecting an old man for this one time only.  i am sure that the next time we cross...
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