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Marvel
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
COLOR: Teal/Sky Blue/Black 
COVERSTOCK: R2X Solid Reactive 
CORE: Centripetal 
FACTORY FINISH: 2000-grit Abralon 
FRAGRANCE:Aromatherapy - Performance 
RECOMMENED LANE CONDITION: Medium-Heavy Oil 
RG: 16#-2.48, 15#-2.48, 14#-2.53, 13#-2.59, 12#-2.65 
DIFFERENTIAL: 16#-.052, 15#-.050, 14#-.049, 13#-.045, 12#-.035 
DESCRIPTION: With the next Prodigy- the Marvel, the intent is to create a motion that is more aggressive, especially in oil, than the original version. Looking at the success of the original Virtual Gravity™, it‟s clear that bowlers love to see a strong midlane roll that doesn‟t quit on the backend, so that is our goal!

 

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Re: Marvel
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 07:29:07 PM »
The storm marvel is a great addition to the storm line. This ball ball will be excellent on medium-heavy house patterns/ sport shots. The drilling I chose is the same layout I have on my invasion. The invasion is about 3-5 boards stronger throughout the lane. But this ball definitly is a step above the prodigy. From my great experiences with storm this ball rolls very similar to the original dimension. This ball reads the pattern early but very smooth an continuous throughout the lane. I only have a few games on the ball on a fresh house pattern 42 ft. I was able to use this ball for about 2 games until the oil got carried down and the ball started giving me over under. I will add onto this review as I roll the ball on some pba patterns and also different house shots and surface changes.

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Re: Marvel
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 04:27:22 PM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length:4 Inches


Starting Top Weight:3.12


Ball Weight:15


 


DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP:4   


CG to PAP:3


X Hole (if there is one):Low
 

 





BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate:High


Ball Speed:16-18

 

PAP/Track:5 5/8 over


 




SURFACE PREP


Grit:O.O.B.


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):2000 grit abralon

 




LANE CONDITION


Length:40

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


 



BALL REACTION


Length:Reads Early


Back End:Very good back end reaction

 

Overall Hook: Throughout the whole lane


Midlane Read: Earlier on wood as apposed to synthetic


Breakpoint Shape:Angular


 



COMMENTS



Likes:I work at Tom Kelley's Bowling Pro Shop and drilled mine up with 60x4x40. I did so with the intent to conserve some of the energy for down lane, since the cover is solid. This works well for me because this drill actually kicks the cg out enough to need a hole down low. This smooths out the roll for me to see my break point easier. I have thrown the Marvel on wood and synthetic a few shots and on wood it picks up very early. I feel that a more lengthy drill would work well for wood lanes. Now for Synthetic I believe that this ball will work very well for medium to oily lane conditions. Especially for when you need to open up a tournament pattern. I can see this ball going to nationals this year with me.The THS for synthetics I believe this ball will be a great ball to throw. I only threw a few shots on both wood and synthetic. I will give it a good test this wednesday in league.

 

 

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Re: Marvel
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 02:31:42 PM »
Style: Tweener

Speed: 18 mph

Rev Rate: 434 rpm

PAP: 5 3/4 right, 3/4" up

 

Layout: 60* 5 1/4" 25*

Surface: OOB(2000 Abralon)

 

Finding pieces like the Virtual Gravity and Invasion to be too strong for my game even on Sport patterns, I looked into the Master Line for just a strong enough read in true heavy oil that the thunder line could not provide for me until the lanes were breaking down. The Marvel has more than filled that gap for me.  As with most house shots,  stand left, throw right and watch it destroy the pins.  However, getting the chance to test it out on the 41' Scorpion pattern it what made this ball a winner for me.

 

With the previously mentioned Gravity and Invasion, I was 5-7 boards left and had to make faster, deeper moves to keep it inline.  However, with the Marvel, I was able to square up substantially (feet-22, eyes-12, breakpoint 8-10) and make slower, more subtle movements left.  In short, I was able to use this ball alot longer.  For the higher rev/heavy handed bowlers, if the top of the line equipment is just too much for you regardless of adjustments, then give the Marvel a try!


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Re: Marvel
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 07:37:06 PM »

MARVEL review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels


 


Here is the data on the MARVEL from Storm:


http://stormbowling.com/products/balls/marvel


 


The MARVEL uses the R2X coverstock, the strong solid reactive that has been so successful in the VIRTUAL GRAVITY, one of my all-time favorites. The box finish is 2,000 Abralon. The Centripetal core is a low RG fast-revving design. Storm says "pro shops love the fact that this core produces similar motion with a variety of layouts."


 


One of the things missing from my arsenal at the start of 2011 was a rough surface power ball with a control drilling. So when I got my MARVEL, I e-mailed Storm tour rep Chris Schlemer for advice on control drillings.


 


He agreed with my idea for the MARVEL: Drilling the pin out with my ring finger and putting the CG near my grip center — a drilling I had a lot of success with a few years ago with a SURE FIRE, including winning a PBA Regional.


 


I ended up with the pin between my grip center and thumb. The pin to PAP is 4 1/4 inches. The unmarked "mass bias" (it's a symmetrical ball) to PAP is 7 inches. The pin buffer is 4 inches.   


 


I've used the MARVEL for two nights of our Sport league on the PBA Earl Anthony pattern at a center with very hooking synthetics; in a singles tournament on the 2010 USBC Open Championships pattern at the same center; and in our City Tournament team event on the USBC White 1 pattern at a center with middling synthetics.  


 


The MARVEL has excelled on the Anthony pattern in our Sport league, delivering series of 761 and 730 when my previous high all season was 680! It allowed me to go fairly direct just to the right of second arrow to start, then move in slowly, with a smooth move off the oil line and a controlled but strong move to the pocket. I had a touch of push and swing to start and as we bowled my swing area increased (with proper speed control). I had 19 of the first 20 strikes the first week and the front eight twice in the two weeks.


 


More details and a picture of my MARVEL are in my blog here.


http://host.madison.com/sports/recreation/bowling/article_bf33dff0-1ffe-11e0-b5a4-001cc4c002e0.html


 


The MARVEL also provided me a decent look on the 2010 Open Championships pattern, although my carry was not good. My first game of 203 included a pair of light 7-pins and consecutive solid 8s. I think a stronger drilling in a MARVEL would have been perfect for the pattern, considering that last year in the team event in Reno I rolled 16 strikes in a row with an INVASION with a strong, high-pin drilling. For the record, my carry did not improve with the other nuggets I tried and I missed cut of 841 by about 35 pins in a very frustrating day.


 


I threw the MARVEL for two shots on USBC White 1, but with just 17 mls of oil (39 feet) a 2,000 Ab surface ball was not the best look – even with a control drilling!


 


The move at the breakpoint was quick but not snappy and definitely controllable. For such a strong ball, the MARVEL was fairly forgiving of release inconsistencies.


 


I would like to throw a MARVEL with a stronger drilling and also on a heavy oil house shot before making definitive conclusions, but so far I would say the MARVEL is a great benchmark ball for medium to heavy oil. It seems to be a smoother and slightly weaker than both the INVASION and VIRTUAL GRAVITY and for those folks who want a strong, rough surface ball but found either or both of the INV and VG to be too much, the MARVEL should be perfect.


 


It's going to be first out of my bag on everything but drier shots like USBC White 1.


 


 



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Re: Marvel
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 12:36:46 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: 41

 

Volume: Heavy


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House Shot (in Vegas)


 



COMMENTS





Likes: smooth transition in the midlane on heavy oil. While others struggled with over under the Marvel had a smooth arc



Dislikes: With how much I loved the Virtual Gravity I really wanted to get this ball since they have the same cover. However it did not come close to anything the Gravity would do.
The rev rate just seems alot slower. I put a lot of hand in the ball and I really had to hit the ball to get it to move at all. The carry is excellent but the ball movement isnt what I expected at all. It had no recovery when the spot was missed into the sauce.


 


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Re: Marvel
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 01:07:38 PM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 3 1/2
Starting Top Weight: 3oz


Ball Weight: 15lb




DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP: 3 3/8


CG to PAP:


X Hole (if there is one): p2.5






BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 275


Ball Speed: 16mph


PAP/Track: high






SURFACE PREP


Grit: OOB 2000


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte




LANE CONDITION


Length:  42-46


Volume: 40-50 ul


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): sport

 


BALL REACTION


Length: med 
Back End: fast action and strong


Overall Hook:


Midlane Read: late


Breakpoint Shape: storng arc


 


COMMENTS



Likes:  great revving ball for my style. I drilled it with a 3 3/8" pin 35 deg to val wth a 1 3/4 pin buffer.

it reacts sweet to heavier ol and due to my lack of revs, the pin placement give me a great quick backend reaction that i need to drive the deck. greaat ball, very versatile.



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Re: Marvel
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 12:01:02 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length: 41ft

 


Volume:24.25



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Kegel Challenge Series: Beaten Path 



 



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Re: Marvel
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2011, 07:27:24 PM »

Hand: Left

 

Ball Speed: 16-17mph

 

Ball Weight: 15lbs

 

PAP: 5 left 7/16 up

 

Degrees of Tilt: 17

 

Layout: 3 x 5 x 1

 

The Marvel is a stronger version of the Prodigy. They both have the same core but the Marvel has the old Virtual Gravity cover which makes the Marvel much stronger. It has a smooth look down lane but has a strong finish at the end. It gets through the heads well with the 2000 abralon surface and reads the mid lane pretty fast but still has a continuous motion on the backend. It is a good ball for the fresh for league or a tournament. It reminds me of the Virtual Gravity but smoother because of the core dynamic. I bowled in Dublin for the Earl Anthony PBA tour stop and use the Marvel on certain pairs when I needed a smoother look down lane. It’s a MARVELOUS ball!

 

I have a video on facebook and youtube. If you have any questions about the Marvel email me at grichardson7716@aol.com.

 


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Re: Marvel
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 06:25:20 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 38 +
 
Volume: THS - heavy in the mids.

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):

 
COMMENTS

Likes:  The midlane and backend.

Dislikes:  None.

 
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I picked this ball up yesterday and threw it in a couples league.  This ball gave me look, that I have not had in sometime.  I had the Virtual Gravity and Invasion and really didn't like them.  I live in the Cleveland Ohio area and the Virtual seemed to be the ball to have the past few years for many bowlers.  The Invasion, just about everyone I spoke with said, it was too weak and didn't live up to it's expectations.  My driller said the test ball hooked more than the one's he sold, he said it was 50 + and many of his customers had the same issues and complaints.
 
The Marvel, it gave me great mid-lane with a continuous backend.  The entry angle was outstanding, it had a look/move that I have not seen/thrown in sometime.  There was no stop to it, the motion and drive when it entering the pocket was excellent.  The pins not only exploded, but get pushed down and around, I was simply amazed.  I just wished the pattern would of been a little heavier and flatter, so I would really know.  After the second game, I went to my Rip-r and it was about three boards weaker, compared to the Marvel.  I just wanted to compare it to something else.
 
I usually play outside, up the track, but with the Marvel, I had to move in a little and play a little deeper.  This ball never gave up on me, if anything it was too powerful, started to leave a couple four pins.  
 
I was very leary getting another Storm Ball, but initially this changed my mind.  If the cover lasts and doesn't get ball death, this would be a good ball for all types of bowlers.
 
It was drilled 4 x 4 of my pap, pin slightly below ring finger, used a double weight hole.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 

 
 
Edited on 1/31/2011 at 5:29 AM

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Re: Marvel
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 10:13:18 AM »
The latest release in Storm's Master line is the Marvel. The Marvel is a solid version of the Prodigy. The Marvel uses the same core as the Prodigy with the R2X cover that was used on the Virtual Gravity.


 


The Marvel that I'm reviewing was drilled while I was competing in the PBA Tournament of Champions. I had a Prodigy that really came in to play around game 3 or 4 after the lanes had broken down. I drilled the Marvel exactly like the Prodigy hoping to be able to use it for the first couple of games and then switch to the Prodigy.


 


It is drilled with a 5" pin to pap distance with a 2 1/2" pin buffer. This puts the pin directly above my ring finger. The cg is 1" from my grip center line and required no hole.


 


I did get the reaction I was looking for. It hooked about 2' sooner and about 3 more boards for me and that was my intent. The ball motion was similar, a nice even arc, but the Marvel is stronger throughout the entire lane.


 


If you are a fan of the Prodigy and would like a ball that reads the midlane sooner with more total hook the Marvel is the ball for you.
















 


 


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Re: Marvel
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 11:51:00 AM »
Using the dual angle layout, I drilled the Marvel 50/5/70. This layout places the pin under my middle finger. I placed the weight hole in the P2 position.









So far I've only seen great things from this ball. When using it on a fresh pattern, the Marvel gets through the heads well, reads the midlane great, and then with the 5" pin to PAP still gives me great movement on the backend. I am very impressed with the way it goes through the pins. It seems like everytime I get to the pocket I carry, but you know sometimes that is the hard part.


The use of the R2X coverstock, from the Virtual Gravity,  with the Centripetal core  is a great pair.


I can't wait to use it more often.

 

 


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Re: Marvel
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 09:06:25 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 39ft and 43ft
 
Volume:Med to Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Scorpion and Shark

 
COMMENTS

Likes: The New Storm Marvel compliments the Prodigy to a tee.  With the R2X solid cover wrapped over the centripetal core, the marvel definitely picks up a lot sooner then the Prodigy.  When the prodigy seems to be a hair to long, the marvel will take care of that problem.  My axis is 4 3/4, and 1 inch up.  I put my favorite layout on this ball just like I did on my prodigy which was a 45x4x45.  I kept it out of the box and this ball is definitely a beast.  I highly recommend it for the medium to longer pba or sport patterns.  Bowl Up A Storm!!!

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Re: Marvel
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2011, 10:35:54 AM »
 









Storm Marvel


 


Pin 5” from PAP (Under fingers)


CG  5” from PAP. (just below midline)


Box finish with slight polish


 


This ball is made for the fresh! It reads the transition from oil to dry perfectly without the super aggression you might expect from a heavy oil ball. This is essentially a Prodigy with a solid R2X coverstock and the Centripetal core, a fast revving low rg symmetrical core with a pretty good flare potential.  I tried this ball on about 4 different conditions and had the most success and comfort on the shorter to mid-length patterns with a decent volume in the heads. I was somewhat limited in the layout I could use in this ball but decided to go with a stacked 5 X 5 under the fingers (No extra hole). Whenever possible, I prefer to try balls without extra holes first and then fine tune them with extra holes as needed. I slightly polished the box 2000 Abralon surface with Reacta-Shine to give me just a little extra smoothness in the front part of the lane. My initial thoughts were that this ball doesn’t hook as much as I thought. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, the Marvel does exactly what it was designed to do…it reads the transition and it focuses on the midlane more than the backend. This is key, because it is a great ball to start the block with while the backends calm down some and the heads are juiced up. I’m typically seeing the Marvel lose some steam on the backends around the end of the second game and have been able to go right to a Prodigy or a Reign Supreme and stay in the same part of the lane. I recommend this ball for the fresh, with a decent amount of oil in the front part of the lane. Early friction will cause this ball to check up too soon. This is a proven coverstock (Virtual Gravity) and a pretty high energy core, so it does need some help getting down the lane. This is not the strongest ball Storm makes (Virtual Gravity Nano), so don’t be fooled into thinking this ball is going to tear through the oil. But, that is exactly why this ball was designed. It does what it is supposed to do.   

 

 



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Re: Marvel
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2011, 02:35:30 PM »

  The Marvel is one of the lastest releases in the Master line from Storm Bowling Products.

  The Marvel has the R2x coverstock used in the Virtual Gravity and the same core as in the Prodigy.

 A winning combination for the bowler who wants the ball to roll sooner in the midlane with more controllable hook on medium to heavy oil patterns.

  I have used my Marvel on various conditions and lane surfaces and have found it to be very bowler friendly until

 the lane conditions no longer support its superior talent.

  My Marvel was 15' 3oz with a top weight of 2.5 and a pin of 3 to 3.5. I used a drilling of 3.5 by 4 with the pin about 1 inch below my ring finger. The cg is kicked out slight and is located just above the thumb. An extra hole was needed.

 This drilling gave me everything that all the ad's had promised.. Another benchmark ball from Storm..