The hype was real about this release, good and bad, I suppose. The new weight block design and the proven R2S cover was a match that was anticipated greatly. I drilled mine with a typical pin up symmetric look, it was super easy up front and read the friction hard on the back. I am slightly speed dominant and have low axis tilt, so getting a good read with equipment is tough. My first practice games with the Timeless were exciting, stringing strikes and tossing pins....My league night didn't go so well. The ball, in my opinion, is very friction sensitive, I know, bowling balls are supposed to be that way. It's at a new level with the timeless, I couldn't get into a comfortable spot with this ball. Now, I am in no way a super star on the lanes, I'm the pro shop guy just having fun. I had no room at all during my league set, hit the dry a bit quick...nose, tug it in a bit...wash out. It was very demanding to hit the pocket, we do have a 45 foot house shot on Utopia oil which is pretty slick, so.....I have drilled other Timeless balls for my customers and most of them are very satisfied. Maybe it's just me, haha. Honestly, I have only used it a few games since the first night and I am planning on getting a few more reps with it soon. Let me know what you think. #stormnation