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Razor Wire
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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The new Razor Wireâ„¢ utilizes the same offset wedge technology found in the Barbed Wireâ„¢, but features a radical solid PRO-Glideâ„¢ shell that 'slices' its way to the pocket!

RAZOR WIREâ„¢ Technical Specifications

Coverstock PRO-Glideâ„¢ Solid  Reactive
Weight Block Modified Thunderâ„¢
Ball Color Purple 2-tone
Ball Finish 800-grit Satin
Radius of Gyration 2.56 (Med-High)
Differential .044 (Med)
Durometer 75-77 Rex D-scale
Flare Potential 4-6" (Med)
Fragrance None
Weights 10 - 16 lbs.
SKU# TRW

 

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2004, 04:34:34 AM »
This one is a keeper. We drilled this one for one of our best bowlers in the house and he loved it. We sacked it for him. If you loved the Barb and wanted something similar but stronger, here it is. 42 foot house condition, synthetic lanes. The ball got decent length and really made a smooth transition from skid to snap. The ball looked really smooth in the back part of the lane but still had that punch that gets the pins down. we only watched about 6 shots, but this one looks great. The hitting power was out of this world, and again, very smooth looking ball, very easy to read.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 02:46:10 AM »
Very impressed with this ball so far.  It seems to be a very smooth rolling version of the Barb Wire.  I drilled mine pin 4" 45 degree hole on VAL 2" down.  Pin just below fingers, box finish.

This ball gets down the lane well and really doesn't seem to want to get left in a hurry.  This ball will be phenomenal for the tournament player looking for control on the fresh, or the high rev player who has trouble keeping the ball from overreacting.

Look forward to throwing this ball this weekend in Phenix City on Pattern E.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2004, 06:53:51 PM »
Drilling: CG out 1/4 inch from center of grip with 3 inch pin at 11:00 near ring finger. (LH)Tweener
Finish: Box
Lane Cond.: Typical house shot. (Medium Oil)

  I used this ball for two games so far and it is a very impressive ball for the price. As the oil carried down my Barbed Wire was having problems getting up to the pocket with any hit. The Razor could handle carrydown without any problem. This is due to the 800 grit satin finish. Someone said already that it reminds them of an AccuTread ball, while not quite believing that it is anything like a Deuce it does play much stronger than any of the other ProGlide balls. Maybe the Razor's 800 grit finish agrees with this coverstock. I find it much stronger on the backends than Barbed yet still easy to control. Storm gets 2 thumbs up on this one.
  As far as the color goes...Not sure if I like it but it is growing on me.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2004, 10:00:17 AM »
15#4, 3" pin, 2.54 top. I did something close to a label shift with this one. About a 4 x 5+, with the pin about an inch right and on line with the ring, and the CG on the midplane line below the ring, out about 1/2" from the grip center. Mass bias in the track next to the thumb.

Short summary: Smooth roll-arc reaction, covers a good range of oil, good on weird shots, exceptional on carrydown. Can't think of another look quite like it on the market today.

Longer than a Tour Power, slightly stronger, a little more on the backend. Longer than a Deuce, not nearly as strong, much less backend. Shorter than a Hot Wire, not quite as strong, somewhat less backend. It's readily distinguishable from any of the above. Razor Wire's specs - a mildish solid cover over a medium RG core with a bit of differential - are indicative of the reaction.

One of the early reviews said "Second coming of the Tour Power". Razor hasn't quite got the same low-RG roll and it gets turned a little easier, but, yeah, it is only a hair stronger overall. The resemblance is in their controllable sport-ball character. You could force either of them snap, but by nature they both want to arc the lane. For me, I think Tour Power is somewhat better on ordinary league shots, whereas Razor is only at its best on tough shots.

Given what I'd seen of the Barbed Wire, I thought this would lope more in the heads but it wasn't like that. Like nearly all Storms, if you have a whiff of oil in the heads it will get through cleanly. Razor has a good strong late midlane roll and continuation. The coverstock is a little softer off the dry than Accutread and seems to retain energy better.

I anticipated that it would want to arc and had it drilled accordingly. This is a valid layout, but if you wanted it for a league shot I would not hesitate to add some length and backend. The biggest surprise in this ball is how well it handles carrydown. It is better than either the Tour Power or Hot Wire in this regard. When throwing it, you are very aware of the big flare working for you on the backend. To give you an idea: I was bowling on a wet carried-down condition today. Sounds amazing, but Razor Wire was handling the backends a lot better than a friend's stacked V2 Strong.

Odd thing about this ball for me - it seems to work better on the weird shots, the sport shots and breakdown conditions than on something clean and normal. I didn't care for it as a first ball out on a fresh league shot. It was too strong and wanted to setup too quickly to play outside, was too little too late to play inside. I felt deprived of area, but I think a hit of polish would make that problem go away.  

So, for me, this isn't a ball I'll lead off with on league. If there's a good bit of oil, maybe it isn't the second. I think it's a resin for when the track breaks down and you have some carrydown. It plays well hitting a tube or track; there's plenty of ball here to get turned. I found it very obedient to release and speed changes.

I believe it will have an important place as a stepdown ball from my beloved Hot Wire on a league shot. It will also be an alternate look from my Tour Power on middle-length sport patterns.  

Control: 9.5. Control is a big strength. Plays smoothly off a dry track or tube. If you have a rev or two to your name, a control drilling on this would make a fantastic cheapo sport or PBA pattern ball.

Responded very well to speed and release changes for me. I could shape the backends to be whatever I needed. Oddly, in this regard, it reminded me of the Granite, which is obviously a totally different ball.

Versatility: ?. I don't know how to rate it. I think of it as a 5-trick pony. Razor Wire is going to be a unique and misunderstood ball, like people who bought the Visionary Purple Ice for league shots and disliked it.  

So far, it's a good sport ball, a good 2nd or 3rd ball out of the bag, excellent on carrydown, good for near-breakdown. Every serious bowler needs something like this in the bag.  Yet I have trouble with it on a clean league shot. I think all my troubles here would disappear with a coat of polish.

As far as how much oil it will work on, it is not a weakling in any sense. I think you could make it work on a good range from medium light up to a heavier medium. Because it's nice and rolly, you feel like if you could find the least wrinkle with it, you could finesse a shot with it on quite a bit of oil.

Hit & Carry: 8. I thought it was a little below average among the Storms I've used. The big problem with arcing balls is they sometimes don't generate enough backend to get out the 10. That was my experience with Razor.
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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2004, 03:41:09 PM »
I got my Razor Wire about a week ago. It was drilled with the pin off my ring finger with the CG moved out. I kept it at 800-grit satin finish. The ball is nice when you need to go more up the lane and just need the ball to roll in the backend. My ball reacts a little more and earlier then my father's ball which had a closer pin and so the CG ended up just out side his grip and I can good straighter and have the ball just rolled in the backend. The ball keeps the pins low like the Hot Rods, Power Charges, and Barbed Wires. I thrown the ball on Oil, Dry, and Wet/Dry. The best reaction was on Wet/Dry, but I could straighter on Oil and carry and swing it on Dry and Carry.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2004, 12:37:09 PM »
This ball in it's box condition was stronger than I expected, so I ended up hitting it with a grey Scotchbrite pad on my ball spinner. This tamed the reaction down, and it reminds me of a Blue Hammer (urethane) the way it arcs and blows the pins away. I have used it in Reno, and both of my leagues, and have only had to move my line to get great pin carry.
I wouldn't classify this ball as a great one, like I think the old Blue Thunder Pearl & the original Eraser are, but it's still a nice ball for control. I do think that you may not like the box condition, as it is indeed stronger than Storm advertised.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2004, 02:09:47 PM »
I bought this ball just one week ago and bowled my first ever 300 at the age of 18. this ball would be a great investment for anyone. It hits like a mack truck and scatters the pins. I give this ball 2 thumbs up.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2004, 02:46:00 PM »
did think it could get any better but ive had the ball for two weeks and have shot a 300,252,268,280,247 etc. the list keeps going on and on. Last night shot a 795. GREAT INVESTMENT FOR ANYONE.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2004, 03:53:10 AM »
This ball has got to be one of the best balls on the market today for medium oil. I belive higher rev players will love this ball. It has no problems getting through the heads. It reads the mid lane well and has a nice controlled back end. I would call the overall hook a strong arc.
 My Razor is 15# with a 3 1/2 - 4 inch pin drilled for medium legnth and maxium back end according to storms drill sheet layout #2. This ball has exceptional carry and I am pleased with the hitting power this ball generates. Its also a very forgiving ball. It recovered well when missed outside my mark and seemed to hold just long enough if missed inside. Ive had a 289,279 and 702 series in the first 2 weeks ive had this ball.
 I've never really been a storm guy, but I think there winning me over. I used mostly columbia balls from about 95'- 2000. Ive been disappointed with columbias new stuff, and Storm has really hit a home run in my mind with the fear factor and now the razor wire.
 The price of this ball makes it a bargin for anybody. This is just as much ball as any so called "high proformance" ball on the market today. I give it a solid 9 out of 10. No ball could ever be a perfect 10, but this ball is pretty close. Only very dry or very wet conditions will hold this ball back.
 A++ on this one storm.. thanks
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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2004, 05:55:47 PM »
Overall
This ball can be a good choice for medium-light through medium-heavy conditions, depending on your speed and revolutions (see profile) with slightly above average length and slightly above average back-end.  While not a typical "skid-flip" type of reaction, the ball does make a strong move and hard arc at the breakpoint without rolling out.  The ball was tested on a medium-length, 40-foot "Christmas tree" pattern as well as a broken-down 37 foot typical house pattern (both on synthetics).  It is more predictable than skid-flip equipment, but a touch jumpy making the transition from oil to dry on fresh back-ends.  Carrydown smoothed out the reaction without losing finish/punch at the backend.

The out-of-the-box surface (800-grit) and layout was a bit strong for my average ball speed and above-average revs at the breakpoint, though it did not roll out even on the broken-down house shot with dry back ends.  Taking the ball surface to 2000-grit polished perfected the ball reaction for me at the breakpoint without disturbing the strong back-end.  In short, it actually made the ball arc more strongly.  It has been absolutely clean through the heads though personally it has not been tested on dried-out or very light heads.

Updated - on light heads where the oil was quickly drying out, the ball still pushed cleanly through the heads.

Ball Specs and Layout

Weight: 15lbs
Top-Weight: 2.4oz
Pin-Out: 4.5inches
Surface: 2000 polished
Drill: 5.5x4 (Pin 5.5 inches from PAP, CG 4 inches from PAP)
Small weighthole on PAP
Static Weights: 3/4oz thumb, 3/4oz positive

Compared to other Equipment

vs. Storm Big Hit: I expected these two balls to be close with similar cores and coverstocks, but the Razor wire makes an earlier, stronger move.

vs. Ebonite Shooter XL: With the surface polished to 2000, the Razor Wire (henceforth "RW") is very similar to my Shooter Xl (reviewed).  The length is almost the same (the XL might be just a bit longer), but the RW makes a stronger move at the break point while the XL actually covers 4-5 more boards overall.

vs. Lane 1 Blueberry Buzzsaw: I have a Blueberry with very similar specs and layout to the RW.  The Blueberry moves a little sooner, makes a harder turn (more skid-flip), and covers 7-8 more boards overall.

vs. Hammer Sling Blade: RW is much smoother at the breakpoint though the length is about the same and covers 3-4 less boards.


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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2004, 03:30:06 PM »
16# - 1" Pin - 1.5 Top Wt. - HIGH gloss

Ball driller told me, "You gotta have this ball." I am glad to say he did not lie to me.

This ball in it's shined state, along with a weak layout really wants to push down the lane on limited oil. For me it's great because normally I am left of so many people that I am fighting to hit the zone that's striking. This ball is allowing me to move right and play a lot straighter(shew). First two sanctioned games I rolled twenty-two strikes with twelve of them coming the third game. By the way, I owned a Barbed Wire for about two weeks, this cover to cover match-up is such a better marriage.

Driller told me a dull one hooks a lot, so tweak the surface for your need. This is a great piece to have if you want something that does not read the fronts and then not over react on the backend.
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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2004, 03:37:50 AM »
i dont realy have the razor wire but ive thrown it drilled many different way. and no matter what way it was drilled it was a good ball. i had 1 drilled to hook as much as possible and that thing takes off. the other one i found interesting was the pne drilled to go long and snap it did hook at all on oil but when that got to the dry spots it finds it way to the pocket and cleans house. i have had problems with them both for the fact that they liked to leave 10 pins left and right but besides that i didnt find any problems with this ball.YET.6-10.

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2004, 11:15:07 AM »
I got one thing to say about this ball outstanding!!!  Bought this ball about 8 months ago and is still hitting the pocket like a rocket!!  This ball is a good investment for anybody.  I have not found one person that had bad remarks about this ball!!!  i set my average at 217 the first night of bowling and plan to average even better than that!!!!  You gotta have this ball!!!!

                     WAY TO GO STORM!!!!!!

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Re: Razor Wire
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2004, 07:56:28 PM »
i have to post this again since somebody deleted my last review about my 300 game and i am only 17! pin is 2-3 and just right of my ring finger and heavy polish i reccommend a heavy polish cause the ball rolls smooth and still reacts real well the conditions at my home house is med to heavy oil and you can play right around the 10 to 15 all night!!!!!


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